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Didn't we already do that, I remember there being a secret meeting of the leaders of most European countries that the US wasn't invited to, where they supposedly discussed future defense as the US grows unreliable
Yeah, but they keep it quiet. The fastest Trump retreats the harder it is to switch so they'll send in Rutte for some serious brown-nosing while buying, producing and setting up their own non US weapons and systems. Besides, everybody could see very well how much USA's protection is worth in the Straight of Hormuz. Meanwhile Trump starts to notice how much he gets done without allies.
Not only outside of NATO, but also inside the other countries are starting to fill the vacuum left by the US. The importance of the US to NATO has severely diminished in the past 2 years and this process is accelerating. I have even heard rumblings of the US getting kicked out (eventually) of NATO if they continue being unreliable. At a minimum there is a serious realignment ongoing.
But yes, post-NATO security frameworks are being openly and secretly discussed in Europe and with its democratic non-US allies.
It's on purpose at this point. I'm fairly certain one of the aims of the heritage foundation is to turn the U.S. into a technofeudal state with billionaires running everything. And if the U.S. breaks up Balkan style, even better.