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No one is immune from propaganda, but I separate out progressive and leftist movements. Liberalism enables anti-progressive ideas, while identifying as the greater good. While leftist movements advocate for things like equal rights and breaking free from the chains of Zionist enablement. The problem I have with a lot of leftist echo chamber content is that it’s a lot of punching down at liberals that are often open to leftist ideas and movements, which is counterproductive to educating and welcoming them. Fred Hampton saw this and that’s why he was never hateful or inflammatory towards fellow working class people. He correctly identified that all working class are in the same boat, even if they’ve been divided up by differing propagandist camps.
your entire comment here is nothing but propaganda to me. I see a bunch of bullshit terms and name drops and nothing of substance other than rhetorical flourishes. word salad that sounds good but is information junk food.
That’s your take and that’s fine. But there’s educational takeaways from the actions of others. Hence the mention of Fred Hampton—a single name drop coupled with reasoning. If you think working towards a unified working class is “bullshit”, I don’t really have anything else to contribute. Take it or leave it, I don’t really care. I’d say I sound less propagandist than some folks do that swallow communism/socialism and its figures wholesale without having an original interpretation or nuance.
where is this 'unified working class' my friend?
would you care to define it with specific numbers?
because where i live multi-millionaires from generations of inherited wealth think they are 'working class'
There isn’t one. That’s the problem. The US is an amalgamation of bullshit. I stick by the principles I was raised with and do what I can, but I’m a grain of sand on a beach and my views mean fuck all in the end.
Or your a typical leftist... you just spout bullshit and when confronted about it with specific questions you make even more vague and meaningless gestures and fall back on how everything is meaningless anyway.
which is why the left is a shitshow, you have no principles or vision and you're terrified of defining terms and having actionable goals, because if you did that you might be held accountable.
I’m not gonna engage in bullshit debates with an enlightened centrist. I’ve already noted in other comments a multitude of things people can do on a local level in their community. You can go find it because I’m done wasting my time with someone trying to get a rise out of folks.
right, so if i call you on your bullshit, i'm a 'enlightened centrist'
a name for everything. are you doing any of those things you note?
or is moral/political grandstanding on the internet and lecturing other folks what they need to do, while you do nothing but whine, more your forte?
Because the center or right is sooooo much better 🙄. We're not the side advocating for the death of human rights.