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I heard that Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales leaders are planning to meet to break up UK. Is it really true? Anyone from UK here who can tell me what is actually happening there?

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

The truth is that the British practiced colonizing Ireland before they took their show global. They even partitioned the Island. The British get horny for partitioning stuff. They partitioned India and Palestine too.

British Patriotism requires amnesia. God damn the King.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Ireland was partitioned due to a referendum, so yes they were asked.

[–] Seimhe@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

No such referendum occurred. British legislation came into effect without a public vote.

Irish leaders were promised by British negotiators that there would be an "immediate and terrible war" in Ireland if they did not agree.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

A referendum was held in 1973, so I should have said partition continued due to a referendum.

However even the opt-out of 1922 could be seen as the result of a public vote, as Sinn Féin campaigned the 1921 election focused almost solely on the issue of partition, and underperformed with 20% of the popular vote.

Unionist and nationalist paramilitaries had been formed during the previous decade, and both had been generously armed by Germany during the war. Unionist paramilitaries had taken to marching through English cities en masse, promising England would face consequences if a united Ireland gained independence.

[–] Seimhe@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

However even the opt-out of 1922 could be seen as the result of a public vote, as Sinn Féin campaigned the 1921 election focused almost solely on the issue of partition, and underperformed with 20% of the popular vote.

Within the partitioned North, yes. The British settlers far outnumbered the Irish at that stage. It didnt' matter what way the Irish voted.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 3 hours ago

So you’re saying the Scottish Indyref would be invalid unless the English got to vote too?