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[–] fonji@sopuli.xyz 14 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

Money aside, beef has a horrible environmental impact. Pork (as found in hot dogs) is way better.

[–] adjectivenoun@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

Is this one of those, "if farmers gave their cows kelp tablets once per day to reduce methane farts, it would reduce it by 50%" deals? I find it hard to believe raising cattle produces more GHG emissions than a similar weight pig.

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

Why is it "pig meat" instead of pork?! That seems suspiciously hot dog specific...

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 5 points 11 hours ago

Yeah, I think the total land used for cattle equals the entire landmass of north america too.

I love beef, I love hamburgers, but it's pretty clearly unsustainable.

I suspect beef prices are only going to go up and they'll never come down ever again.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Weird that Soy isn’t on the list, unless it’s so low it isn’t even on the same scale?

[–] Robert7301201@slrpnk.net 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

Turns out you can choose what's on the chart. Soy isn't there, but there's a Soy Milk and Other Vegetables category.

Edit: Woops, the one above is a different chart. I found the protein one, but the categories are different, and I don't see anything close to soy. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/ghg-per-protein-poore

[–] Kuma@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Thanks for the link! I just learned something new, dark chocolate is almost 2x worse than beef! Only heard about the injustices towards the ppl growing cacao beans, now i know one more reason not to buy it...

[–] fonji@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

You don't usually buy chocolate to get your protein dose though. Per kilo, dark chocolate is half the impact of beef. And a serving of chocolate is not the same mass as a serving of meat.

But... yeah. It's not nothing.

Edit: link to the per-kilogram chart

[–] otterpops@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago

this is based on poore-nemecek 2018, which is not very good science

[–] fonji@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Both charts are interesting, thank you for adding this one!

Edit: tofu is soy-based and can be added

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 0 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I heard that ground beef isnt all that bad in the total. Considering people eat tons og steaks etc. ground beef is literally jusg leftovers after all the good stuff.

If you have to eat meat, eat ground beef instead of cuts.