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I'm actually going to say this nonsarcastically. In its defense most of the movie is still pretty funny, but the eugenicist intro is really bad. It would've been better if you'd chopped that off and said he'd just been isekai'd to a world of stupid people.
Really though I'd say the part that's aged worse is maybe not even the film itself but the way that people keep trying to compare it to the present day. Idiocracy is a world of well-meaning idiots who still have hearts of gold, and the day is saved when they step aside and let the smartest guy in the room figure things out. That is the exact opposite of the problem we're facing today, where the villains at the top are very smart and very evil, smart enough to know how to use stupid people as puppets for their selfish aims. Idiocracy doesn't even have any true villain in it.
How is it eugenicist? It took and actual real life trend in many western countries at the time and caricatured it to an extreme. It is a goofball comedy.
I've seen many people mention how they feel Idiocracy has gone from a comedy to a documentary. I disagree. I believe it's become a vision of a better future than the one we currently have ahead of us. I wish I was kidding.
The idiots weren't well-meaning with hearts of gold. They enjoyed guys actually getting kicked in the balls, gladiator games, and extreme objectification of women.
The way I saw it, the idiots in Idiocracy were that way because they were stupid, and less so because they were actually malicious. That's in contrast to today where we have people who are certainly capable of doing better but chose to act the way they do.
Thanks, it's like people didn't actually watch this movie before parroting these opinions about it. "Camacho actually had good intentions", except the part where he sent Not Sure to be executed at the end.
That's little more than cartoonish at worst. No one in the film is truly evil the way that real world oligarchs are evil.
I apologize for punching down. The little man is a victim of his circumstances and can take no real responsibility for anything.
President Camacho was a good guy, but pretty much everyone else were assholes.