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Found the guy downvoting everyone. :)
I don't have a problem with what he's saying here, but I don't care to hear it from him and as you can see from the responses, it's not a good look. People want to follow people politically that they think are good people.
As you can see from your down votes, we disagree.
You cannot attack the message so you have to attack the messenger. Conveniently when he speaks out against Zionism.
The classic Zionist tactic.
Why would I attack the message?
You tell me
I haven't, that's why I'm asking. I don't have a problem with his politics, I agree with what I've seen, but I personally don't like him because of what I've seen him do. Last night after the flurry of posts here, I went and went down the rabbit hole. I believe he did it and it gives me the ick. I also believe he's being defended just because he's a popular youtuber.
I'm done with this dog issue, and the ball of people defending things they shouldn't.
Is the dog in any way relevant to Palestinians being genocided
Found the Zionist
Hasan isn’t a bad person. You are falling for propaganda by Dan Saltman and Destiny, who are sex pests and genocide deniers
Is Saltman a sex pest? I know he's a genocide denier and Epstiny is both, but I hadn't heard of Saltman being a sex pest.
Nah not a sex pest, he limits his crimes to stalking and harassing. He lets Destiny and Ethan Klein get all the sex pest crimes.
He abuses his dog and is the king of fake progressivism. He is a left wing grifter and Id be weary of his declarations.
Define left wing grifter.
The democrats, someone who plays tge culture war in order to enrich themselves. A demagogue posing as a progressive.
Okay, so how does Hasan fit those descriptors?
If you can see it you're blind and are part of the problem. But be a puppet for the elite, idc 🤷♂️.
Wary is the word you're looking for, not weary.
Again, the smear campaign that he shocks his dog is from the likes of Ethan "pedo_troll" Klein and Dan Saltman, a man who literally uses stalking and harassment to intimidate his victims.
It's not a good look to be showing you listen to those two bozos.
???? Nah I watched him shock his dog on camera, I have no idea who those guys are. He's a nepo baby millionaire no different then tucker Carlson. He doesn't display a single modicum of humility. If you're defending this demagogue, go right ahead.
No you didn’t. Because that’s not what happened.
I watched him do it on camera, idk why people shill for that nepo bb. Yall as bad as the magats.
Could you post the video with the timestamp of the dog being shocked? This should be easy to prove if you saw it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TaNezk4wNQ&t=360 at the 6 min mark. Also moist provides more evidence as the video goes on.
Do you actually have the Hasan video where this happens or just second hand edits from roach boi? The first hand source would be more credible than someone who stands to gain from this. I found this video: https://twitter.com/i/status/1976010613114757214 sorry for the twitter link. In which he shows the collar. People had to theorize which kind of shock collar it was and did not come up with an answer, claiming he taped over the prongs. But Hasan claims it vibrates and is not a shock collar. This does not seem like a dead to rights accusation but instead Twitch streamer bullshit from people who make their living off of drama and not actual work.
Wow you such a magat, show you evidence and you hate it. Gl in life you clearly aren't intelligent shilling for a millionaire nepo baby. Enjoy your tucker Carlson ilk.
Your "evidence" is from a known MAGAt payroll receiver, Asmongold. Dont act like thats reputable.
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That's how I know you're lying. Ciao!
Weirdo psycho can't accept reality, shocker.
"Shocker" - pun intended? Hahaha
He needs to make this go away any way he can or it will continue to cause wedge issues.
Lol. Confidently incorrect. I'm not a guy and my instance has downvotes disabled. I couldn't even downvote you even if I cared enough to do so. Maybe more people other than myself disagree with your bad takes.
If you're choosing to focus on Hasan having a correct opinion that is concordant with his beliefs, then you're choosing to center Hasan instead of the message, when the message is much more important.
Most reasonable people find that behavior to be suspect, particularly when the issue at hand is about a genocidal ideology and you're choosing to focus on inconsequential online discourse about the person that is calling for action against it.
This is a progressive sub so I would guess everyone's already on the same page WRT his message, but if the message is truely important then it should be our best foot being put forward to spread it, and I don't see him being the best foot with this wedge issue lingering. it is what it is.
Why isn't he the best foot? Because of the right-wing propaganda? Then who? Whoever you choose, and before you name them, are you aware that, if that person ever becomes the center of the spotlight, they too will be smeared endlessly like Hasan currently is, right? You will NEVER find someone perfect, and if you do, they will lie about them. And then there will be people talking exactly like you are about Hasan right now, but about your favorite guy.
So, what's your point here? Your goal? To weaken us, to distract? Or are you genuine? Because all you are doing is keeping the loop alive with this attitude. I've seen it since always. You will never have "someone who is the right foot to spread the message", never. It's all of us, including you. We all have to do our part, do not be as lazy as a religious person, who lazily neglects the pain of the innocent by simply "praying for them" in the comfort of their bedroom with the air conditioner on. You better learn how to embrace human flaws and turn them into something constructive, or keep wasting our time. It's up to you.
It was thanks to Hasan that I, a random Mexican, still has hope for the "good" half of the USA. If it wasn't for him, I'd be killing Americans right now by funding the production of fentanyl. All I have to do is buy my weed from a certain cartel and convince my friends to do the same, but I didn't do it, because of him. It was him the only political influencer online that proved me Americans still got a chance and deserve to be saved. MAGAs are everywhere, including my country. Right-wing and fascism is not exclusive there.
We are all victims of our governments which sadistic crybullies and psychopaths from the Jeffrey Epstein class, who feel dopamine and serotonin when they kill/abuse/exploit/rape/control someone innocent or cause harm to others, have taken ahold of with ease because we are not like them, we don't kill for power. That's it. We just need the courage to remove them by force, put them in jail.
Do not make it easier for them, by keeping us "searching for Hercules" or whatever. Hasan is one of the greatest people in the frontline progressives and humanists have right now, and to deny that is to admit you're malleable and easy to corrupt and manipulate. I've done my homework of learning your language to communicate what we are going through, here in Mexico, the Iron River, we need to destroy it asap, but Americans won't let us. I have spent years watching multiple content creators, articles and news channels from the USA to listen to all the positions, and I am heavily disgusted by MAGA, and disappointed at the rest. Hasan has been the only one that shows the most humanist values, which are the ones I care the most about, idgaf about patriotism or nationalism, that shit is for the neanderthals, I care about the potential of humanity that has been taken away by the most greedy in the world. Your loyalty should not belong to your country or a religion or a political party, it should belong to humanity; hell and heaven are what we make of this planet to be, so, stop wasting our time with this pointless search, because we need action now, we are losing over 30,000+ innocent people every year to gun violence; guns we didn't even make.
The right wing is the target audience! That's the whole point. You can't even get to the sales pitch if you can't get your foot in their door.
Try posting this in a right wing sub and see what happens, and why. See if you can even get them to the message.
My goal this year is to vote in the midterms and to try and get at least two people I know to change their votes. I can't mention this guy because I'll just get shut down and nothing is gained.
We don't need PERFECT but we do need a guy who hasn't been accused with zapping his dog with no way for me to refute it, I can't sell that to my two people before the midterms I'll just get a door slammed on the sales pitch. He really needs to make this go away any way he can.
"with no way for me to refute it" there are so many ways. If you are expecting to convert the most hardcore MAGAs who are still supporting Trump today, you are wasting your time, you should be going after the doubtful, the genuinely-lost and open-minded. They do exist, although rare and a lot of them are already dropping him, they do require some touch to reach them first, you cannot just force your ideas with anger and clever replies, you gotta show them your world is better, by being funny, charismatic and cool with them if possible. I know it's almost impossible to do a lot of times, but it does work and it is what Hasan has been doing consistently for years now, and it is working. Look at the attention he's getting for a reason. Demons hate people like Hasan, because he teaches people these uncomfortable truths, which do nothing but solidify the Class War by spreading awareness, the last thing the Jeffrey Epstein Class wants to happen. They want a dumb, defeatist lazy society, one easy to lie to, manipulate and control, and for that they need the poorest majority to believe the lie that rich people are smart hard workers.
You also didn't respond who should we be listening to. No one? Then shut up. Or who? Destiny? Ethan Klein?
And as I said, even if you found someone "better than Hasan" they will lie about them as bad as they already do with anyone, including Miss Rachel, dude. Miss Rachel. Like, the second mother of everyone's child, a Barney-the-dinosaur-like figure has been called a terrorist and a monster. And you think you can find someone bulletproof to any of that? You realize that, for something like that, you will need to find someone as shameless and aggressive as Donald Trump himself, but with his heart actually for the people, right? Buuuuuut you HATE people like that. You find them too offensive or raunchy. You hate Hasan already. I can already tell you will NEVER find anyone better and are just here to waste Americans' time and get them killed sooner. Latinamericans too. You already distracted someone like me for almost 20 years now. I wasted my time believing in people like you, waiting for someone perfect to do all the hard work WE should actually be doing.
Thanks to people like you we are still dying after decades of waiting for you to find that "someone". You lazy fuck. You always want someone else, someone "more perfect than you because you are too lazy to grow up" to do the work for you just like I said about religious people. The majority of Christians do not really go outside to feed the homeless, or go to Africa to feed the children, or rarely volunteer or participate in community projects, the ones that do are a very, very small %. I grew up in a religious school, got forced to read the Bible every day. School was filled with future Andrew Tates, though. And they still call themselves "men of God" despite being racist misogynist greedy selfish assholes who would never donate a single dime even if they had an endless amount of money. Lots of my classmates were children of the most corrupt politicians and even sadistic powerful cartel lords in my city, you can imagine the kind of values they learn at home, and oddly enough, they climb the ladder very fast. That's what being born in power does. It's in the hands of the wrong people and we need to take it away from them already. They don't deserve it.
You don't even want to put in the easy work of refuting such a stupid hoax like the dog zapping smear campaign. Brother, the Jeffrey Epstein Class won't ever go away with this lazy and porcelain-fragile attitude about everything. You have zero respect for Humanity, you only care about yourself, your own comfort, your own image, blah blah.
You don't even need to focus on Hasan or talk about him at all when door-knocking. Just his ideas. Focus on the messages, never the messenger. If you're wasting your time arguing about the dog zapping hoax, you already lost. Those people know they are lying just to waste your time, energy and sanity. You gotta attack those people with shit that matters to them, like having money, sex or stability. Ask them something like this and watch them get nervous all the time: "How come you don't have even a quarter of what the average baby boomer had at your age, like 7+ children, a home at 19 years old, economic stability, or at least a happy family of four without a college degree? What happened? Are they smarter, work harder, or what?" and then slap them with this one if they are still simps for billionaires: "Immigrants, minorities, women, or LGBTQ people didn’t decide wages, housing costs, healthcare prices, or wars. People with capital did, and they love it when we fight sideways instead of up."
"It's always the people with 6 teeth applauding the people buying their 6th yatch" that type of shit is more effective when you see them talking shit about Hasan online. It forces them out of their playfield in front of everyone. The shit they reply with always repels the silent readers that actually matter. People care more about themselves than a fucking Twitch streamer, so. They always run away or get heavily fucking embarrassed with the shit they say. They admit being rich? Then it is pathetic this is how they waste their time. They actually have 7 children and whatnot? And spend their time commenting bullshit in social medias? That's sad. A miserable life nobody wants. Baby boomers were happier than that, even if they were more ignorant.
Attack them with these, and trust me, you will get closer to what you claim you want: class solidarity.
Why should we listen to you otherwise? Why should we keep "searching for someone better" and keep letting innocent people die everyday? It's been decades, dude. I remember motherfuckers like you when I was 12 back in the early 2010s. You were saying the exact same shit, both here in Mexico and also the USA. Fuck that shit already, I am almost 30 and everything has done nothing but go downhill. You wasted my time and my life, and now, the least I can do, is make up for all that time loss and instead of listening to people like you anymore, of taking you seriously or "respecting different opinions", I will simply open their heads to the truth and move on regardless of how much they cry, scream or want to play like a victim just like MAGAs do. Political Correctness my ass; we have been in the wrong for a long ass time, wasting time policing ourselves instead of removing the parasites that control our education. We are not a victim, we are not innocent anymore, we are a fucking lazy piece of shit who is getting millions of innocent people killed with our ignorance. Fuck that. No more respect for ideas like that, no more.
Have you ever seen the FunkyTown video? The cartel video? That's what we've done to thousands of us for decades. Go watch it. That's what a lot of genuine innocent good people have gone through, because of this fucking world we allowed to be built instead of acting sooner. We just come across as lazy procrastinating sabotaging fed shitheads now. Comments read like we are trying to do reverse psychology or subtly convince people to give up, to feel defeat "because Hasan" or whatever. We just want someone more perfect than us to tank all the pain of having our egos and narcissism bruised, we hate being shown we are wrong and that we need to change, I don't know. We need to be more shameless, but with our hearts in the right place, that's all. That's how those demons play, they can kill, rape and abuse us and then cry if we try to do the same to them. We allowed them to monopolize violence. To take it away, we first have to teach people to HATE them again. Exploit their jealously and emotional instability. You yourself gotta stop giving a fuck about money for that first, though. It becomes a lot easier to humiliate people who still care a lot about money, like MAGAs, Andrew Tate-like manosphere incels... Even if they are rich, if you call them boring or show them genuine boredom, they get hurt. No amount of yatches, drugs and sluts can replace the fact that they are still mediocre boring and uncreative nobodies at the end of the day. They STILL had their full potential taken away. Stop giving a shit about what they say about you, make them the center of attention, not Hasan nor yourself, and it becomes a lot easier to ridicule them and move a bunch of silent readers to your side. Those fucks literally navigate life under the idea that "Might Makes Right", so, you show them how small they truly are no matter what and have fun doing it.
Chapter over. If you are actually one of those rare people who can read this much, be proud. You don't have a TikTok brain. The people who instantly jump in to say "too long didnt read" "not reading all of that" and shit like that, they are no different from MAGAs. If they cannot even read a page like this, how can we be sure they even read about history, psychology, math, politics, etc.? They probably only read the headlines, you know? That's the impression they give whenever they reply just to admit how lazy and fucking stupid they are to the entire comment section. Just to tell everyone that they don't have the strength or balls to read a few hundred words. Sometimes they say they do, but simply call me crazy and never elaborate or dismantle a single thing, because they cannot, they are that fucking stupid. People like that are a waste of time. What is the point of coming to social medias like these if it's not to read opinions? It's worse when they do it in Reddit. "Reddit = Read it", yet the neanderthals give up after 5 words. I hope you are better than that. It's time we make reading as important as lifting or going to the gym. "If you don't read a lot, you are fucking weak, period." That's how we get the manosphere to read more, by insulting them like in the military. It's literally what they want, what they respect and admire, not even joking.
MAGA are not conscious beings. They’re not anyone’s target. Undecided/apathetic voters are, and you’re again assuming true some bullshit smear campaign, something that will arise for any figure that makes positive statements. Just like Hillary ran a rape pizzeria, just like Abdul protected criminal immigrants.
The right wing are never the target audience. They will never see reason. If they are truly centrist then they will vote for their interests. But in order to do that they have to be informed. In order to be informed, there has to be someone to inform them. Whoever that is is going to be attacked by the establishment who doesn't want an informed populace. The only people that won't be attacked are the people that want the status quo maintained and corporate interests protected.
I consider the right wing in this context anyone who could vote right. I have a hard time labeling someone who is scratching their head over the options today "centrist" or "independent"