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And it failed spectacularly.

We only needed a simple form, but we wanted to be fancy, so we used "nextcloud forms".

The docker image automatically updated the install to nextcloud 30, but the forms app requires nextcloud 29 or lower. No warning whatsoever. It's an official app, couldn't they wait that it was ready for NC 30 before launching it? The newsletter boasts "NC hub 9 is the best thing after sliced bread" yet i don't see any difference both in visual or performance compared to NC hub 2

Conclusion: we made our business to rely on nextcloud forms as a signup form, but the only reason we were using it was disabled who knows how many weeks ago.

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[–] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml -1 points 7 months ago (4 children)

The docker image automatically updated the install to nextcloud 30, but the forms app requires nextcloud 29 or lower.

Lol. Do not blame others for your incompetence. If you have automatically updates enabled then that is your fault when it breaks things. Just pin the major version with a tag like nextcloud:29 or something. Upgrading major versions automatically in production is a terrible decision.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

They're releasing a new version every two month or so and dropping them rapidly from support, pinning it with a tag means that in 12 months the install would be exploitable.

Now, I did directly to production because this is low priority stuff, but it would have happened even with a testing stage. I would have never noticed that the forms apps was disabled, the system disabled it without any notification.

You would expect that an official app supports the latest release, no?

This wasn't an app released by a nobody in their free time, this is a main feature heavily advertised in their blog. Look by yourself:

https://nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-forms-to-keep-your-surveys-private/

It's not unreasonable to get pissed when 6 months after that blog post it doesn't support the latest release anymore.

[–] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They're releasing a new version every two month or so and dropping them rapidly from support, pinning it with a tag means that in 12 months the install would be exploitable.

The lifecycle can be found with a single online search. Here https://github.com/nextcloud/server/wiki/Maintenance-and-Release-Schedule

Releases are maintained for roughly a year.

Set yourself a notification if you forget it otherwise.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 1 points 7 months ago

Exactly, they have a release schedule, why their own plugin, that they're heavily promoting as a feature, isn't following that? If for some reason the forms app isn't ready for that date, why not postponing the launch instead of having it broken for who know how many months?

It's not a plugin made by someone else in their free time. They knew that by updating to NC 30 that feature that was marketed just 6 months ago would be disabled, so at least have the decency to write it in the release notes. I subscribe to the newsletter and the RSS for what, just enjoy the marketing buzzwords?

It's like if Microsoft releases an operating system with a buggy and broken taskbar because of a rushed self imposed deadline and fixes it one year later.

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