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The only country selling EV's/hybrids to Canada that actually meet at least my needs is China. Its not even about price at this point, its that the current market doesn't even try to be competitive or develop good electric vehicles.
What good is a 40km battery when my daily commute is 150km? What good is a 350km battery when i do quarterly 650km day trips, and can't afford the time to charge the vehicle (no, I can't 'do other things' while the car is charging, the charger is a 20 minute drive from the nearest store/restaurant/etc).
What car has a 40km battery. What car gets 650km range without filling up.
40km is the average actual charge on available PHEV's (including my Escape, which Ford has discontinued), because the NA market thinks PHEV's are a joke. Also would like to note I lost (according to Ford) ~18% of my range recently due to them using shit parts in their batteries.
The MHERO II coming in at some point has an electric range of 150km, which, for me, is actually useful.
There are no cars in NA that have a real-life range of 650km, at least under $100k. I know Tesla claims the Model 3 can, but I have strong doubts that's true, especially in the winter (plus I would never touch a Musk product). China has a few lines with ~700km range, that are cold-weather tested, though not sure if any of those are hitting the Canadian market at a reasonable price.
my hybrid gets 660km range.
Why complain about PHEV range when PHEVs are designed for typical commutes, not 150km. Sounds like your lifestyle is going to take a lot of gas money.
Your hybrid gets 660km with a full tank and full charge. I was discussing specifically the charged range, not fuel. I am complaining that there aren't any reasonable options currently available in Canada for me to reduce my fuel usage, and I am looking forward to there being better options soon.
My commute isn't by choice, the travel costs are just significantly lower than the cost to move somewhere better,,and my household income can't really support dropping everything and just going somewhere else.
Get a SWTCH home charger. Mine goes to full in an hour and they pay me for it and the charger itself is free ($300 deposit, refunded after an amount of use that I hit in a month or two)
Edit: oh, but that doesn't help you on the longer day trips. Is that 650k in one day?
I have a Chargepoint charger (BC Hydro gave rebates on them).
Yes, 650km in one day, preferably under 12 hours including shopping and whatever appointments we have. It's why I have a PHEV and not a full EV.
650 km in one day means you spend at least 6 hours of that day driving your car.
Closer to 8, once you factor in the in-town driving, yes.
Living in Northern BC sucks, that round trip every 2-6 months saves me a stupid amount of money on groceries and essentials, even factoring in fuel/charging, though a hotel would eat into those savings pretty bad.
I also do this a few times a year with my PHEV, but for my next car, I'm still considering a 100% EV, and maybe rent an ICE for my 2 or 3 longer trips.
Whereas for me, the rental would kill the savings and thus the point.
Spending 8 hours in a car rather than working 8 hours is questionable financially, so I try to combine vacations with doing useful things, and most of my trips include a vacation part and a useful part. Nothing wrong with taking a few days off each year by extending weekends. Only you know your exact numbers of course. Ok I'm out now. This is all I can do here. Cheers.
While I get your point, these drives are either on my days off, or I use a paid leave to do the trip, so either way it doesn't affect my paycheque