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In an attempt to better understand Lemmy I’m wondering if some of you can shed a light on what the deal is between.ml and .world. The history, any significant event or a betrayal, how did we all run away from spez only to come here and throw mud at each other?

I’m sure it confuses a great deal of Reddit refugees who just signed up with the largest instance because of (in my case future proofing) reasons.

I’m wondering how this historic feud came to be and how I can be called a “Zionist” just because of my instance, and they are called “fascists” even though I’ve come across some pretty levelheaded people from that instance too.

Please, keep it civil!

I’m not trying to start a fight or mud slinging, it would be good if several people could say their piece and nobody shame or attack them for it no matter how much you disagree.

Thanks

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[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.social 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

The admin are the problem there though.

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

who? unruffled was literally the reason Hexbear proposed defederation from dbzer0 if that’s what you mean

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.social -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I meant all of them but if that's the one that came to your mind first that's telling.

[–] Aatube@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 hours ago

he’s the one that comes to my mind first because i hate him

I have never yet found a db0 (the admin) opinion I disagree with.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

Care to explain further? I have only had good interactions, but to be fair I don't know that much about any drama here so 🤷🏼‍♀️

[–] Pamasich@kbin.earth 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Probably related to their admin's (Rimu's) false claims about dbzer0's admins using LLM for moderation. Though it's been months since that was a topic and got debunked. Rimu is pretty infamous on yepowertrippinbastards (which is banned on piefed.social) for his mudslinging and silencing of criticism.

Fun story I got banned on yptb for pointing out the one of their mods/admins were being ableist.

Of course they waited a week after the conversation to do that so I guess it really got under their skin.

[–] cm0002@lemy.lol 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (2 children)

For .ml specifically see below, as far as dbzer0 goes, some of the admins have allegedly taken a "friendlier" stance to the Tankies. I don't personally believe they're going full tankie like some on the Threadiverse believe, but sometimes they make questionable decisions in pursuit of that friendliness. For example allowing hardcore tankie users to be mod in comms that were literally formed to be free of tankie influence/ideology/propaganda like !leftymemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com where the top mod is a known Tankie and openly admitted to being one just recently

Admins of .ml promote and enforce authoritarianism here's a megathread on them

You'll get banned for showing support for Ukraine or going against Russian narratives or if you remind them of Putlers promise to not invade or just shit talking Putler in general

Or calling out propaganda sites - https://lemmy.world/post/32776038 | https://lemmy.world/post/33416433 | https://lemmy.world/post/34051329 | https://lemmy.world/post/35919522

Or so much more, I actually haven't updated the megathread in a few months, but there's more recent stuff on !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 hours ago

That mod was the one that created that community though

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Oh, yeah I'm banned in "leftymemes" and the modo is sure a piece of work. Didn't think much of it because the sub is so low quality/basically dead. It was my fault a bit, I was sick and misstook it for an .ml sub lol. But this explains some things for sure.

I’d say that these days that group contains four instances and dbzer0 is a member.

Besides that you can look around and decide for yourself.