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[–] kurt_vonnegut2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 8 hours ago (8 children)

Isn't the idea to decentralize?

[–] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 16 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

We are decentralized, according to FediDB, the Fediverse has 14.2 million accounts. Lemmy+Piefed+Mbin have 551k users. Obviously we could be better spread out, but the fact that there's no instance at 50% share is already pretty nice.

And if a big instance enshittified, it would be drastically easier for everyone to leave it compared to convincing people to leave Reddit or something. You just export/import your user settings and you get to keep the communities you've subscribed to and block, and the users you've blocked.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

No. The idea is to have the constant looming threat of decentralization to keep the centralized system in check.

[–] BooBees@fedinsfw.app 9 points 4 hours ago

Mutually assured enshittification

[–] magitian@programming.dev 2 points 3 hours ago

Precisely! What's the point of an overpopulated instance? It's more likely to affect users because of blanket instance blocklists.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 4 hours ago

I'm part of discuss.tchncs.de, more or less by accident. I just stumbled across that one when I wanted to make an account.

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I came here after lemmy.ml said it was shutting down. Idk what happened a with that but world seemed stable enough to not have that problem

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

.ml shutting down? That's the devs server unlikely it will shut down unless for maintenence

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

the instance I was on straight up, said that it was shutting down, and that we should migrate to other instances. I did that and dropped the other account so I have no fucking clue what's going on over there.

[–] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

actual question: How is Lemmy.ml functionally different than Lemmy.world?

[–] FiniteBanjo@feddit.online 2 points 2 hours ago

ML was run by the Lemmy frontend maintainers who drain the blood of puppies for sustenance and wish to kill you slowly and painfully as a source of income.

[–] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

.ml has a lot of pro-Russia, pro-China types and criticism of either country can lead to a quick ban.

Functionally, there is no difference. Both run the same software, tho the versions may slightly differ as the devs, who run .ml, push updates.

For a functionally different experience try Mbin/Kbin (I forget which is the current), or Piefed. Piefed is similar to Lemmy with some quality of life improvements. Kbin/Mbin is a cross between “tweet” style posts, “blog” style posts like tumblr, and Reddit type posts.

[–] Ripley_Tripley@lemmus.org 5 points 5 hours ago

From my experience, people in .world are way more open to positive discussion than .ml. Everything upsets .ml if you say the wrong thing or dont post the right way, to make them understand. Its to much fucking drama for no reason.

[–] toothpaste_sandwich@thebrainbin.org 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

All those users are from different instances. That's decentralized.

If this community goes down or is otherwise not viable anymore, users can easily find another, similar community, while not having to switch to a different platform or instance or whatever themselves. That's how this is supposed to work.

Decentralization with different larger communities on different instances, with community members from all kinds of different instances, baby!

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

It only works if you can bring your block list with you. That's the only thing of value attached to my profile.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You can, it's easy and quick. I just exported my profile settings (builtin to the default lemmy.world web UI) to a json file in a couple seconds. Confirmed it contains blocked users and communities.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Well thank god for that!

[–] ShutUpWesley@piefed.zip 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

For real, do they want the Fediverse to turn into a shitshow like email?

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 2 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

it’s almost inevitable, no one cares about decentralisation

[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Decentralized networks with large centralized communities is the best approach. You have to have that number of people to have interesting conversations and engagement.

But if all the users are spread out across several instances it becomes more resilient. If a large community/instance goes offline or there's a controversy then it can be migrated to a new instance

[–] semperverus@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

It's good to have it as an option but most people are frustrated if they can't just go to one place that has tons of people.