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[–] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 70 points 3 days ago (37 children)

Started out with a good cause, but it was quickly turned to shit by selfish, evil people. Not the first time it's happened in France, I'm afraid.

[–] robear@lemmy.zip 83 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (14 children)

It's a classic problem with mass civil disobedience. All the elites have to do is simply wait for a selfish minority who'll choose to use the opportunity to enrich themselves at the expense of their fellows. Then they can frame the entire movement as violent and base.

Im not advocating against civil disobedience, but you need solidarity to avoid this.

[–] exaybachae@startrek.website 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Bad people distort narratives regardless of the actions of others.... No matter what she did, my first wife was always the victim. DARVO is a thing, identify it and ignore it. These people looting a market for resources after a long night of rioting does not disqualify their complaints. Their complaints must be evaluated and addressed independently of their reaction to the original violation against them.

[–] robear@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago

Their complaints must be evaluated and addressed independently of their reaction

I 100% agree.

These people looting a market for resources after a long night of rioting

But this doesn't mean that revolutionary action demands we hold the delusional belief that this market was looted because the protestors were on the brink of starvation or had no access to clean water or medical supplies.

They smashed that shop to bits because it was fun and an opportunity to rob some vapes.

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