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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 6 points 2 hours ago

Unpopular opinion but these looting are destroying any legitimacy protesters have. It's so cringe.

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 hours ago

People will militantly defend their own bondage.

[–] pumpupthejam@piefed.social 7 points 5 hours ago

If they're looting from a business with a c-suite - fuck 'em, let it burn.

Looting from an independent business is scum.

A much stronger message would be sent if multinational chains were left in ruins, but the locally owned businesses untouched and protected.

[–] LLMhater1312@piefed.social -3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Just more white tears, "someone please think of the businesses". Riots are a natural response to extreme injustice. She has no political analysis on what's happening, it's sad. The good protester vs bad protester narrative misses the point entirely. This is the result of the accumulated trauma imposed by the racial and wealth hierarchy of capitalism onto people. Even many small businesses can be corrupt and exploit their workers and communities. She wants to protect her comfortable neoliberal reality, the same one that causes black and brown kids she doesn't care about to starve or freeze to death

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

just more white tears

Or you know, brain cells. Blind destruction of legitimate service is a response of a toddler not a just individual.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 25 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I don't give a hoot about the goods from a giant corporation. Take it all, and take the fixtures and equipment, too. Insurance will have to cover it, and another giant corporation will feel the effects, too.

Hands off Mom & Pop shops, they're not the problem, they're part of the solution.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Insurance will have to cover it, and another giant corporation will feel the effects, too.

Who do you think pays for the insurance?

You think they just give it away for free?

[–] DillDough@lemmy.zip 5 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

The giant corporation...I think you need to re-read their comment. They don't care about any losses for major corps (honestly a fully reasonable position) but condemned theft or destruction against businesses owned by regular people.

In this situation two major corps suffer loses, that's a win for the common folk.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

The giant corporations love this. Majority of these shops will go under and big business can scoop up these properties for cheap. Looting is trashy and makes the common folk want more security.

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[–] arsCynic@piefed.social 12 points 14 hours ago

“C'est pas la cause!”; an extraordinary brave act while surrounded by pubescent morons with short fuses.

[–] mastertigurius@lemmy.world 54 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

Started out with a good cause, but it was quickly turned to shit by selfish, evil people. Not the first time it's happened in France, I'm afraid.

[–] robear@lemmy.zip 67 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (5 children)

It's a classic problem with mass civil disobedience. All the elites have to do is simply wait for a selfish minority who'll choose to use the opportunity to enrich themselves at the expense of their fellows. Then they can frame the entire movement as violent and base.

Im not advocating against civil disobedience, but you need solidarity to avoid this.

[–] Malica@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

This is why I'm glad for videos like this one, showing the reasonable people

[–] exaybachae@startrek.website 8 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Bad people distort narratives regardless of the actions of others.... No matter what she did, my first wife was always the victim. DARVO is a thing, identify it and ignore it. These people looting a market for resources after a long night of rioting does not disqualify their complaints. Their complaints must be evaluated and addressed independently of their reaction to the original violation against them.

[–] robear@lemmy.zip 3 points 15 hours ago

Their complaints must be evaluated and addressed independently of their reaction

I 100% agree.

These people looting a market for resources after a long night of rioting

But this doesn't mean that revolutionary action demands we hold the delusional belief that this market was looted because the protestors were on the brink of starvation or had no access to clean water or medical supplies.

They smashed that shop to bits because it was fun and an opportunity to rob some vapes.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 9 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Greed. Its in all of us, and the filthy rich love exploiting the them, as they easier to manipulate.

[–] robear@lemmy.zip 8 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

Greed. Its in all of us

This is something the greedy want you to believe, and an insult to the majority of humanity who would never act like this.

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

All the elites have to do is simply wait for a selfish minority who'll choose to use the opportunity to enrich themselves at the expense of their fellows.

Which is EXACTLY what the Elites do as matter of routine. They just don't like it when it gets turned on THEM.

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[–] john_save_america@lemmy.zip 1 points 12 hours ago

It’s almost like there’s a reason that successful movements have an emphasis on peaceful protest.

[–] Ethalis@jlai.lu 20 points 19 hours ago

It's still a good cause. Just because a few hundred assholes take advantage of the situation doesn't mean the hundred of thousands that went to the street to protest peacefully are wrong

[–] falcunculus@jlai.lu 15 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

FYI the topic of protest was "life is too expensive." So there's really no mystery as to why people are stealing.

More generally, looting is to be expected in a society that constantly tells us the meaning of life and our our moral worth is based on what we own, all the while denying most people any chance to actually own anything. Looting is one of the monstrous avatars of capitalism.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 15 hours ago

Trickle Down Economics created all these Sociopathic Oligarchs, and it has been obvious for decades that the benefits of Trickle Down Economics were fraudulent from the beginning. They refuse to surrender Trickle Down, so now society is spontaneously pivoting to Robin Hood Economics, and it's going to spread.

[–] TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip 7 points 18 hours ago

It happens in every worthwhile protest. If you see it more it's partly because the media wants you to, partly because things are so bad your country has been letting more people feel this is okay.

Also, everyone thinks the French revolution was so cool, but beheadings weren't normal back then either, it probably wasn't the most well-spoken of the protestors doing that violence either.

[–] Azzu@leminal.space 7 points 19 hours ago (13 children)

How do you know they're selfish, evil people?

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[–] 5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

The loot is also given to people in need. It’s not just greed. https://loops.video/v/iPH3tC5-W8

Edit: Also the French cops seem to be false-flagging here and there:

Supposedly trying to get to protestors while other cops watch: https://mamot.fr/@paratos@social.ixcat.ovh/117376147530779571

Setting a trashbin on fire. His pal in the black hoodie seems to have a gun holster (triangular shape in his back): https://mamot.fr/@antyfaszysta.bsky.social@bsky.brid.gy/117462157042917063

Stealing shoes from a damaged shop, right into the police motorcycles: https://mamot.fr/@sebu@framapiaf.org/117463417826681166

Violent "protestors" accessing police vehicle as needed: https://mamot.fr/@antyfaszysta.bsky.social@bsky.brid.gy/117464474742537372

Source

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago (4 children)
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[–] Azzu@leminal.space 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Can someone translate this? Is there anything in there, why specifically she's trying to stop them, like is it her shop or sth?

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 23 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

She is basically saying stop stop! this shop is not the cause (not what we are protesting about)

they say that he (the shopkeeper) is not her father

the white guy comes over and says they won't listen to her and she could get injured

She keeps shouting: why are you doing this, this is not the cause

inside they are saying take the wine while the shopkeeper looks on sadly

at the end they say they went shopping! and does anyone want some shampoo or ice

Will leave to someone actually french to translate but this is the gist of it i think

[–] Ethalis@jlai.lu 8 points 18 hours ago

I can confirm that's basically it

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