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Really, we should just remove the mandatory pregnancy tests before giving medical care to women, and instead inform them before a procedure, that can affect a pregnancy, what the risks are and offer a free pregnancy test before scheduling the procedure.
But then how will we shame queer (or worse childfree) people for having ambitions in life other than birthing and raising future minimum wage workers?
Given the plethora of other ways to marginalize women (and LGBTQ people). I don't see this being a major issue. We'll just have to rely on tried and true options like dismissing sexual assault, pay inequity, and pockets.
What does that solve? According to webMD 1/2500 pregnancies are undetected until labour. Meanwhile 1/500 don't know they are pregnant until week 20.
Obviously doctors shouldn't be gatekeeping healthcare, and women should be able to opt out, but I don't see how collecting less data benefits patients.
edit: Like in Canada they started taking blood pressure at everything not just medical doctors. Dentist, physio, everyone. Cuz they weren't getting enough historical data by the time issues arose?
That surprise pregnancy at week 20 happened to me π³ Baffling how I had no symptoms, just one day my skinny pants wouldnt fasten, and a quick trip to the doctor, found out I was 5 months pregnant π³
Edit: come to think of it, I'm an idiot, ignore me.
It takes time and effort to collect and consider that data. You'll note that we don't do full body MRI scans of everyone at the ER or when they visit their PCP, and that benefits patients because it reduced costs, respects their time, and makes their Dr. more available. There is a tradeoff to collecting that data, sure, you can argue that administering a pregnancy test is fairly short and consequence free interaction. However, the over-the-counter tests are advertised as "99% accurate" so about 1/100 women are going to get a false results, complicating the care for a lot more people that the 1 in 500 undetected pregnancies.
It also shows preferential treatment for a hypothetical person over the actual person seeking immediate care. Imagine being in pain, confident that you aren't pregnant, not giving a flying fuck if you are, and the people you are paying hundred of dollars an hour to help you are slow rolling your care because of potential consequences for a statistically unlikely fetus. You would rightly be very fucking pissed off about it.
Asking a woman if she is pregnant should happen before anything is done that will affect her health if she is, and the testing should be opt-in, instead of opt-out with a slew of lawyers and waivers.
Strawman fallacy. Pregnancy tests are cheap and quick.
Unsubstantiated argument.
Another unsubstantiated strawman. An unexpected result can easily be retested.
Red herring. Already said opting out should be a right.
AND BEING WRONG. Which statistically happens as per web MD. 1/500 pregnant women spend half their pregnancy unaware they are pregnant. ~7000 women per year in the USA
Exclusively American problem bro.
Strawman. Again sounds like an exclusively american problem. Opting out in canada is as simple as the doctor clicking a checkbox.
Every problem you've described has nothing to do with pregnancy testing.
Yeah assuming all women are going to be wrong about the last time they had sex is a problem.
I think they were more concerned about a very small number of women being wrong, not all women.
Which is even worse in my opinion, as a very unlikely problem (1/500 pregnant women didn't know they were pregnant) affecting a small number of patients (~9% of women visiting the ER are pregnant) is more important than all the reasons not to do a pregnancy test. Some rough math says that's about 1/5000 women that visit the ER will not know that they are pregnant. We're administering 5000 tests to catch 1 pregnancy. Low-end estimate puts the cost of administering those tests at 500,000 dollars. Half a million spent on a 1/5000 chance, that someone does not know they are pregnant.
4,999 women will have their care delayed to save 1 statistically likely fetus. 500 of those women will get a false result on their test, creating more delays and issues with their care.
We are disrespecting women's health so fucking much on the off chance that there may be an unknown potential person in them, it's ridiculous. And those numbers even assume that the 1/5000 person wouldn't opt for the test just to be sure when prompted.
From the Wikipedia page about a Strawman fallacy...
Your literal point that I copy/pasted as a quote in my reply.
My point, copy/pasted from my comment.
I am literally providing a very compelling reason on why we collect less data in order to benefit patients.
I refute your ability to understand a strawman fallacy.
After reading your whole comment, I have low confidence your ability to construct an argument, and you seem to repeatedly rely on misunderstanding (or mischaracterizing) of my arguments and the fundemental fallacies you've accused me of using.
Rather than dive into your gish gallop, I would ask that you demonstrate your commitment to arguing in good faith by apologizing for accusing me of creating the first "strawman", and admitting that you either did not understand my argument, did not understand what a strawman is, or admitting that you accused me while intentionally knowing that it was based on false pretenses.
Some people will then refuse the test, wrongly believing that they aren't pregnant.
Some people are getting the test, and wrongly believing that they are pregnant. What's your point here?
Some people may be absolutely sure they aren't pregnant. Testing is necessary because people are unreliable.
It's not necessary if the issue is not related to being pregnant.
No shit. But if it is, the test should not be optional.
No, fuck that.
They should tell you "if you are pregnant, this procedure may have these risks to you or the fetus, would you like to take a pregnancy test beforehand?" And if they say "no" then that is the end of it.