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China is still expanding with coal and pinky promising they will peak in 2030 before going down
Expensive oil will help but won't do enough
China is doing much better than the rest of the world in converting to renewables imo, can't happen overnight.
Here's a better chart with data until 2024. China really does need to start reducing their emissions soon or they're gonna fuck us all.
yeah I think it always needs to be pointed out that the rise in both china and india and the leveling off and falling in the us and europe are more a factor of offshoring manufacturing than anything else.
Holy shit I didn't realize it was that bad
They've flattened over the last couple of years missing from that chart. Despite not stopping development and making the world's shit.
Bloody hell, I thought chinas investment in green energy was the one good news story about climate change. This is surprising.
It is. Y’all are also neglecting that during this period China modernized faster than anyone ever before. They brought hundreds of millions out of poverty and rapidly grew into a modern industrial power.
China’s investment in green energy and transportation is a good news story about climate change and China’s investment in its people is a good news story about human well being (disregarding oppression an genocide of course). Up until now they grew faster than they greened, but those lines are crossing
https://lemmy.ca/comment/25957549
Per capita, China's emissions are still far lower than the US.
"Can't happen overnight" ...but it's already too late and they are still rising
And "converting to renewables better" doesn't mean much when their main priority is expanding production
https://i0.wp.com/epthinktank.eu/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/screen-shot-2015-11-27-at-12-12-17.png?ssl=1
I'm no Sino cheerleader, but China has a plan and is executing. Love 'em or hate 'em, the 21st century is China's century.
Yeah they've got a plan to keep expanding emmissions
I don't really see how that's a thing to cheer for under this cry for help in the OP
China's doing what every industrial nation did in the 20th century, pollute their way to the top, but at least they're doing it with a plan to roll back. Here in America we're purposefully making emissions worse with no future plans.
I also find it amusing when Westerners bitch about China doing exactly what they did to get on top economically.
"Hey! You can't do the bad shit we did!"
"I learned it from you dad!" :)
China's coal use per capita is monstrous, but oil use per capita is falling. Given that their green energy exports are not carbon-free manufacturing, well, TANSTAAFL.
"dad"?
I don't think you understand how serious this issue is
Ever notice how when someone doesn't have a solid rebuttal, they pick one tiny thing about your comment to highlight?
My point stands: China's doing the same shit today that the West did to come out on top of the economic heap. And now we're all offended? And again, they're treating emissions as a temporary evil whereas America is actively rolling back rules and regulations.
Offended? Weird how you think this is some kind of popularity contest
Everyone needs to do their part asap or we're all cooked.
What do you think happens if India and later Africa get their 'fair turn' of 'necessary evil'?