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Mine is that the useState hook is an actual plague on the entire React ecosystem. Regardless of your opinions of React, if you wanna use something then use it right.

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[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Not a programmer, but I hate softwares that use python, why the fuck it requires 10 million dependencies to function?

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And any python project older than 8 months has a multitude of shit that breaks or deprecates. It feels like trying to reassemble Tony Stark's arc reactor any time I need to get an old python project functioning

[–] Equinox1289@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hate the whole deal with it's lack of real private variables and having to rely on virtual environments. Poetry helps, but it can't fix some of the underlying issues. Also the dynamic typing is annoying.

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

It's funny how any dynamically typed language inevitably reverts back to static typing to manage chaos.

Poetry is the best of the bunch but that's also a massive contributing factor to Python's chaos. There are like 6 competing ways to set a python project up and despite having all 6 installed on your machine at all times, you still need to install their specific versions of things to get their project to work...

It's like someone looked at how fast avacados and bananas go bad after lasting a while, and was inspired to make a development environment that did the exact same.

[–] capital5@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I know, most normal softwares requires 3 or 15 on some bloated softwares, but the simplest python softwares requires at least 10 or 20 on the bigger one and I've seen some go up to 40 (maybe perl too but no one use it nowadays so I don't count it)

[–] capital5@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I reflected on your comment for a bit and I can see what you're saying. All software uses dependencies, but how they are shipped is different for a lot of languages. If we take an extreme example, Go has a lot of the same microdependencies that Python, JS, etc. have, (probably a lot more than Python even), but since programs are usually compiled into a standalone binary, you never think about them as a user. Interpreted languages on the other hand tend to not do this because they're not compiled, and when you're installing a dependency, you're often installing the source code itself, rather than a shared library or .jar like you would in C++ or Java.

A lot of people do complain about virtual environments though, and while I don't personally have a problem with them, I do wonder why nobody uses bundlers in Python. It seems that something like this already exists, but it doesn't seem to be widely adopted or used for all the complaints I hear about virtual environments and such.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

I think the incredible instability of python environments also leads to people being much more aware of python's dependencies. Similar with NPM, but with a bigger focus on vulnerabilities there.

[–] black0ut@pawb.social 5 points 2 days ago

Node software too. I hate it so much I have blacklisted npm and bun in my package manager.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Because a dedicated dependency is better than random code.