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Andy Yen, the CEO of Proton, had a message for an employee in the company’s security Slack channel who urged the company to at least take a few days to pentest newly written code before pushing it live. “That’s bullshit and loser thinking. Of course it’s possible to be fast and secure,” Yen wrote in the channel at the end of August. “Stop thinking always of how to be slower, and focus more on how to be faster.”

In a follow-up message, Yen reiterated his point: “only losers think like that.” His ultimate message for the team was to “stop lovingly handcrafting all our code and use AI more.”

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[–] SwooshBakery624@programming.dev 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Alright, that's enough for me. What's the best mail, calendar and drive alternatives? Preferably the ones that aren't slop-coded.

Also, has anyone had any experience with Migadu?

[–] LewdLemon@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mail: Tuta, Posteo
Files, calendar: Nextcloud. Self-hosted or managed. Mine also does my contacts and task sync.

[–] SwooshBakery624@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nextcloud is slop-coded, unfortunately.

[–] LewdLemon@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Define "slop-coded" with regard to Nextcloud. The self-hosted sub has presented a useful terminological framework to pin down what software "made with AI" can entail:

Hint - AI suggested solution, human does the task. Assisted - AI acts on part of a task, but a human handled the bulk. Pair - About a 50/50 split of human made and generated. Generated - Human prompted, AI generated.

Where on this scale do you see Nextcloud?

[–] SwooshBakery624@programming.dev 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Nextcloud is assisted, but it is still slop. That's why I didn't use vibecoded.

[–] LewdLemon@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just looked into their AI policy. Looks reasonable to me, so I don't think the blanket characterisation as "slop" is fair, but you do you.

The only reasonable policy for me is Zig's AI Policy.

[–] hneerqe@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

the best are the ones you host yourself. quite doable, except email if you don't want to send emails straight into the spam folder.

[–] SwooshBakery624@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I don't trust my skills enough to spin up a mail server. Or honestly any server that will be exposed to the internet.

[–] toastal@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

Neither do I trust my uptime/maintenance of a mail server. I pay 1 EUR a month to Posteo, & it’s the only subscription to anything I have. Email ends up being an important access point for recovery & contact, so I keep it separate—paying to keep the lights on somewhere that posts it encrypted & responsibly.

[–] hneerqe@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

you dont have to expose or open ports nowadays.