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[–] inari@kbin.earth -5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Turns out centralized banking has its benefits

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Seriously (why are you downvoted?). How do you even go about refunds or fraudulent charges in crypto? Are you essentially powerless against scammers and thieves/hackers?

Apparently private wallets are not safe as those are seemingly hacked most commonly, every virus and crack looks for it. Online exchanges get constantly hacked and online wallets have a tendency to randomly rug pull.

Entire crypto scene is basically banking but "we got blackjack and hookers so we are better"

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

It's gambler mentality. Maybe you might make some money, maybe you'll lose it all.

[–] ChaosMonkey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is a centralized exchange. This attack could be mitigated by encouraging users to move their funds to their own wallets.

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago

It's easier to revert a fraudulent bank movement than a crypto one.

[–] copingwithelmons@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But yeah, he's gotta point. Why don't central banks loose money like this? Is it because their cash isn't in a Blockchain?

[–] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Because it's the bank, financial institutions and the trail of transactions registered to known entities who say whose the money is. For crypto you only need the keys and it is yours.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 5 points 17 hours ago

Banks also have control of their own ledgers and can just issue a reversal transaction. If it's between two banks, it'll be more complex, but overall that's still the case

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Since crypto is more of a trading asset than currency, they're not that useful in your own wallet because then you constantly need to move them in/out of the exchange and pay all the fees related to those transactions.

Yeah yeah "actually they're currency" blah blah, except they're not really usable as currency in the functional real world (just like stocks)

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Closest by far is Monero. They are actually willing to spend it as a currency, and when looking at statistics from companies that accept different cryptocurrencies, Monero is always either number one or number two on the list.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

companies that accept different cryptocurrencies

But this is the issue, that's like 0.0001% of possible places you can use your funds (probably I'm way too generous with that number), and none of it to not die from hunger, cold or dehydration.

And the volatility is still absolutely absurd for something to be used as currency, like all other Cryptos it is dominated by instability and speculation to an excessive degree.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I have been buying groceries through giftcards for over 3 years now and i have not died of hunger or dehydration. The cold is admittedly a bit harder. I dont have that one figured out yet.

But I am able to take my Monero and use it to interact with the brands and companies that everybody else uses.

What I was saying above is that for companies that accept different types of cryptocurrency directly, Monero is always in the top one or two spot.

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I have been buying groceries through giftcards for over 3

Fair enough, this seems very regionally specific though. I can only buy gift cards for local supermarkets with my credit card for example. And in all the countries I've been to (granted mostly on the European continent) I've never seen an option for using crypto for gift cards.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

they're not that useful in your own wallet because then you constantly need to move them in/out of the exchange and pay all the fees related to those transactions.

Hot wallets are for small amounts for daily spending

It's the same as constantly going to the ATM to get cash in your wallet....

Nobody carries around their whole net worth in their pockets

[–] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 18 hours ago

What that statement ment was, that you can't use it to invest and diversify you portfolio if its not in an exchange. So unless you keep the majority in the exchange, you can't trade it without paying the transaction fees every time.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 20 hours ago

You can use decentralized exchanges.

[–] Gordito@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I don't think that word means what you think it means.