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EDIT: The thing is done.
Up until recently, I was willing to roll with Proton since the product itself is so good, but who knows if that will remain with the reckless charge into LLM integration? We've been watching Microsoft and Google enshittify their products at a rapid pace in order to force people to use their chatbots, so Proton's likely up next.
I'll spend part of my day researching alternatives, but for those of you out there doing the same, just keep in mind that your best bet for privacy is Non-US tech services, especially if the country in question doesn't comply with the CLOUD Act.
I hate the fascists too.
What did you move to?
Have not decided yet. Thankfully there are a ton of Non-US options.
Not many with port forwarding though.
I was looking at PIA: even though it's USA-based they can not produce logs or any other type of info even if they get a subpoena, and they have port forwarding. Know anything about them?
I wouldn't trust any company based or heavily operating in any country under fascistic leadership. Even if they're doing their best to do things right, all it takes is a gag order alongside a subpoena or other "legal" demand, and they're forbidden to tell you that they actually are required to maintain extensive logs.
Fair point, thanks for bringing it up