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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 49 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The decentralized nature of it already prevents it being enshittified. If one instance turns to shit, others will be made to take its place.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

On the other hand, the decentralized nature completely prevents the blocking of scrapers, spam, etc.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

It does not prevent either of those things. It just makes it harder to eliminate universally since every instance is ran differently and may or may not have been set up properly with good tools that help stop those things.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 18 hours ago

Tell me how to prevent scraping in a federated setting. I'll wait.

[–] naeap@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you want to scrape, you just create your own instance

Doesn't matter how others are configured - at least for scraping

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

That's not really scraping, and you can block other instances from caching your instance's posts.

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

It kinda works like ublock origin where a block list makes the block coverage MUCH faster. Its already happening in some parts of the fediverse. As long as its disclosed, its a very reliable tool.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

How do you block something that is scraping the content to train LLMs?

[–] mesamunefire@piefed.social 1 points 13 hours ago

Sort answer you cant (federation). Long answer, you can but with a lot of effort.

You can however fuck with LLMs VERY easily. Poisoning it is relatively easy.

[–] Adniem@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Just like everything else. Nothing stays unshitty forever.