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The contempt Proton is showing for their users is astounding. They not only think people will fall for this transparent act of damage control, but they also have the gall to shift blame onto the users.

Go read the comments. Obvious bots are posting praise and many critical comments are being deleted by the moderators.

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[–] pumpupthejam@piefed.social 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So where now, any suggestions?
I use proton for email and password management.

I'm happy to pay for a product so long as it isn't lining the pockets of abhorrent people.

Getting real tired of seemingly having to sit down and research who I'm give my money to, can't we just stop being hateful bastards for a while?

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Go piecemeal. Proton is a good deal if you actually use all their services, otherwise it's overpriced.

For mail, mailbox.org, posteo.de, and fastmail.net seem to have good reputations. They'll all allow you to bring your own domain (edit: not Posteo, my mistake), which I highly recommend so that it'll be easy to switch providers again when whichever one you choose turns to shit (yes, I say when, not if, because I am just that jaded at this point).

For passwords, there are a lot of choices, but the most future-proof is probably to keep a local Keepass DB and sync it across devices any damn way you want. Bitwarden used to be good but I don't know anymore. They've backed away from open source a bit recently, and I can't even tell at a glance what their free plan offers anymore. Maybe look at https://vaultwarden.com/ instead.

For VPN and storage...I dunno. There are a lot, and most of them seem kind of shady tbh. I'd be interested in hearing others' advice on this since I'm not sure what's good these days.

Edit: I'd REALLY like to hear recommendations for Docs and especially Sheets. Everything else I've used is a UX nightmare, particularly on mobile.

[–] beegnyoshi@lemmy.zip 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Just a small note, afaik posteo doesn't support custom domains

[–] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 23 hours ago

Oh, looks like you're right. Thanks for the correction.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 2 points 20 hours ago

For VPN and storage…I dunno. There are a lot, and most of them seem kind of shady tbh. I’d be interested in hearing others’ advice on this since I’m not sure what’s good these days.

Personally, I'm on PIA for VPN and Mega for storage. Both not without their controversies, of course, but they work well, have native Linux GUIs, and seem solid enough for my purposes.

[–] alansuspect@quokk.au 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] miked@piefed.social 3 points 21 hours ago

I also use them for contacts and calendar. Fastmail even syncs with my work schedule online.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do it yourself is really the only way. Password management yourself is easy, email self hosting...not as much. But it is do-able.

The email middle ground is using your own domain and finding a decent host that runs an Imap email server. But who that is these days is a guess.

Some of the long time mostly trusted hosts have begun to add AI and raise prices.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Getting your own domain is the important part. If you're ever unhappy with your provider you just swap your DNS records and boom, move it to the new provider in seconds.

[–] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I can't find a domain name I like that isn't annoying to try to tell people 😭 My first world problems are insurmountable.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 0 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TheMadCodger@piefed.social 1 points 3 hours ago

Common enough that it's taken already. Not counting crazy TLDs. It's even taken in reverse which doesn't spell anything.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How would you suggest this password management is done and synced across devices?

I know of KeePass, though haven't looked into it too closely.

[–] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 4 points 21 hours ago

KeePassx saves its database as a file. Keeping that file in sync can be done by only using it in one place and reference only that one from your devices, or use something like syncthing to sync the file.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Keepass and syncthing if you want have full control. Keepass and something like dropbox if you don't mind some cloud

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 22 hours ago

Keepass and syncthing if you want have full control.

This is what I do. It works well.

[–] dusk@piefed.social -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I never understood why someone would use a 3rd party for "password management"