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My how fast the AI tech bros move to protect corporations but don't move to protect the average coder, artists, writers.

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[–] hunnybubny@discuss.tchncs.de 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
  1. LLM bubble pops.
  2. Market gets flooded with $200b worth of hardware (this is how much is not used to Zitrons knowledge).
  3. ???
  4. Subscription based LLM gets cooked.
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

hardware that people cant USE, they are solely used for AI in those datacenters, its just going to be e-waste.

[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

No it isn't. 0h come on. Yeah thy couldn't possibly take the same or similar hardware components and make them work in PCs.

They are already putting NPUs in PCs.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago

You'd have to start soldering the HBM and the GPU chips off the boards they're on. Those aren't PCI-E boards much of the time. Also, they don't have display outputs.

I'd absolutely buy one of those servers to run open-weight models locally, but let's not kid ourselves here: We're talking about an ungodly amount of power for a single machine, think it was a few megawatts for a rack, or at least hundreds of kilowatts. A single server luckily should still be in two digit kilowatts. Could realistically only use it in the winter though.

[–] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

I can. Compute is compute. Even if it's extremely niche you give me enough cycles I'll find something to run on it.

There is a geniuly cool idea floated a last year I think at xorg conf for a Linux driver that used GPGPU instructions to do the traditional GPU processing as well. So theoretically you could use some of the AI accell to instead compute things like rastors.

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 8 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

You used to be able to BIOS flash workstation GPUs to make them somewhat usable for gaming.... not sure how far these AI GPUs have diverged from gaming cards these days and if a BIOS flash could make them playable.

[–] nightlily@leminal.space 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

They don’t even have headers for soldering a display output to them. They’re purely a compute card.

[–] Fluke@feddit.uk 7 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

It'd work nicely as a pure accelerator for an actual GPU though, with the right firmware.

Almost back to the 3DFX pass-through days again... 😁

[–] it_wasnt_arson@awful.systems 4 points 13 hours ago

AI GPUs have specialized very heavily for neural networks, including things like going down to 8- or 4-bit floats in favor of more parallelization. Most of that hardware is just useless for graphics tasks at this point.

[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 30 points 23 hours ago (5 children)

Government bales out AI companies and the bill they write to do it will make local LLMs illegal.

[–] SpaghettiMaster@feddit.uk 5 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Piracy is illegal and they are of course doing a great job at stopping that...

[–] EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 59 minutes ago

Reverse engineering isn't piracy

[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Unless you're training your models...

[–] TiredDinoByte@lemmy.today 10 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I think you are right, but that seems VERY unenforceable.

[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 20 hours ago

Successful enforcement doesn't look like catching every pivate LLM owner.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Except the people I hear running “local models” report a lot of hardware, like a half dozen graphics cards. The common person is screwed, they have a smartphone.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Two or three years ago sure. Now...not even close. Tons of models run on basically shit now. Especially with MOEs. I run new lightweight models on an i9 and 64gb of ddr4 ram with a 4gb quadro card...in a laptop from 19'.

I think this is why a lot of these tech bros are saying silly shit about suggesting people need to rent from them. That's their entire shtick. Otherwise they got nothing else.

[–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Got some references and keywords for research?

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If you've got at least 8 gigs of VRAM and at least 32 gigs of RAM you can run some pretty beefy Qwen models using Strata, far more than you normally could. Upgrade that to 12 or 16 and 64 gigs respectively and you can run a pretty decent quant of Qwen 3.8 flash next. It's a LOT bigger than the usual 27 and 35 billion models people run locally that themselves require pretty beefy hardware. Strata is doing some magic by deciding which experts stay in VRAM vs which ones are in RAM vs which ones are so rarely used that they can just be read from the SSD as needed (though it's best if you don't have to result to the SSD as a backup option at all)

[–] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago

I saw the video, you still need a fast NVMe, I'm still in data SSD...

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

https://youtu.be/8F_5pdcD3HY

This guy does a great brain dump on how little is needed to run LLMs on basically old junk.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

Local LLMs will never be illegal, because that genie is out of the bag

[–] btsax@reddthat.com 3 points 21 hours ago
[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

With what money? No one is buying bonds. The US would have to print so hard it'd cause hyperinflation, which still means the bubble pops

[–] benny@reddthat.com 1 points 4 hours ago

The fed balance sheet gets bigger like it did with AIG.