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What zeal? I just posted information that for me is important in how I make a decision. Are you also against the BDS movement for pointing out companies that do business with a government committing genocide? As a vegan, would you buy (vegan) shoes from a company that also makes leather shoes, but only buys leather from a company that skins cows alive? Would you not tell people "Hey, this shoe company is getting their leather from a company that skins cows alive. Maybe avoid them?", if you saw a post about that shoe company? (fyi, not that i think that anything that happens with animal factory farming is ethical)
I am not looking down on anyone in this post or calling them unethical for not focusing on this point. I understand that different people have different thresholds to take action and different things which are important for them. I don't expect anyone to be perfect or to only search for untainted things. Just to try to do better for the world with their choices, wherever they can. I also know I am very privileged to be able to make the choices I have that align with my moral standards, and that a lot of people are not able to do that.
Since here it's about a university, the comparison would rather be "would I buy vegan shoes made from a technology developed at a university that also partners with other universities in which -- among many other things that happen in a university -- also someone busies himself with skinning cows alive."
And here I come back to my original response. Oh come on, how far do you want to go with a moral outrage with guilt by association?
With such a moral attitude, taken seriously, I would starve barefoot. But I don't, and I also don't suggest it to others. Veganism has a hard stance as it is. I would refrain from such a stretchy argument purely to protect the perceived sanity of the movement.
Antizionists quite regularly use these stretchy guilt by association arguments. that is the zeal I mean.
I understand where you are coming from. We have different thresholds to consider this an issue, and that's fine.
My problem with ETH Zurich is not only the collaboration with the Israeli university, but also that thy brought criminal charges against students peacefully protesting their partnership with Israel. That to me shows that they support the Israeli genocide of Palestinians. That makes them guilty. Not by association, but by their actions.