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I've cancelled my subscription yesterday, conveniently it was about to renew at the end of the week, so I have a few days to migrate from Proton, here's what I'm thinking of, but I'd love to hear what other people are switching to

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[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 118 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Bitwarden is pivoting towards the same enshittification path as everything else, so that’s not gonna be a good long term for a password manager. They hired a new ceo whose only noteworthy experience is prepping companies for mergers and acquisitions, and briefly removed messaging on their website about always having a free tier which they reinstated after backlash. All signs point to a sinking ship, imo.

I don’t have the answer for what to use instead since I’m still a paid subscriber with them, but I’m looking around. Probably keepassxc but I don’t know enough to host and sync my own.

[–] hneerqe@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

KeepassDX on android. Any keepass .kdbx file opener on every OS. .kdbx file saved on a local network shared folder on an always on raspberry pi. Access the folder on all devices, open the file with keepass app.

No sync, no extra sync software, no dangling copies, changes are immediate, decryption happens on device not over the network. Step up to network share over sftp. Tailscale tunnel to access when away from home.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

this is the way.

bonus: put it on your NAS in a file-sync folder.

[–] VAK@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago
  • don't forget backups (standard advice for any storage but more so here)
[–] freddo@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Vaultwarden is a great alternative.

[–] Guiorgy@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

However, Vaultwarden only implements the webvault, the client apps are still only supplied by Bitwarden, which they could make incompatible with Vaultwarden at some point.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the client apps are still only supplied by Bitwarden

Not true. You could also use Keyguard.

[–] SwooshBakery624@programming.dev 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl -1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Their github page is public and you can review the code if you want to. What are you talking about?

[–] SwooshBakery624@programming.dev 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'm talking about the license. It is proprietary.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl -1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

What is it exactly that you want to do but can't? Anyone can audit the code, you could see if they were doing something sketchy. Sounds lile you just want to complain.

[–] SwooshBakery624@programming.dev 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Open Source is not just about the source code availability. Keyguard is proprietary and I try to avoid proprietary software.

[–] potustheplant@feddit.nl -4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

So no real reason then. Gotcha.

[–] arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 hours ago

Just because someone's constraints don't apply to you doesn't mean they aren't "real", maybe try to not be so dismissive of other people's needs?

[–] GMac@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

That is what gives me pause with vaultwarden... the need for bitwarden proprietary apps.

Edit: i stand corrected they are not proprietary. Dont know if they could kill compatibility for vaultwarden if they chose to. That is a better explanation of my concern.

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago

Dont know if they could kill compatibility for vaultwarden if they chose to.

Well bitwarden.com has made changes that broke compatibility with rbw for certain things, but the main problem here IMO is rbw not getting updated

[–] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

They are not. They are GPL licensed.

[–] GMac@feddit.org 1 points 16 hours ago

My mistake. Sorry

[–] moth@anarchist.nexus 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

the community already made a custom server that's compatible with Bitwarden, I imagine if Bitwarden cut them off then they could make a custom client for it as well.

in fact I believe there are community made Bitwarden apps already for Linux desktops, although I never tried them because I just use the browser extension.

[–] Vittelius@feddit.org 2 points 18 hours ago

Yes, there is this one for example for Linux Mobile and Desktop:

https://flathub.org/de/apps/dev.bitritter.BitRitter

[–] freddo@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

Indeed, and I do not like that I have to have another repository just for the bitwarden app.

I am not really worried though. If they completely fuck up, a fork of the app will be a matter of seconds.

[–] uuj8za@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bitwarden is pivoting towards the same enshittification path as everything else

Yeah... I've noticed as well.... also interested in a good alternative.

[–] zjti8eit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 21 hours ago

Nextcloud passwords. If you don't want to host yourself you get a free one when you sign up for a friendica account at libranet.de.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 6 points 1 day ago

AFAIK the concept behind keepassxc is that it's an encrypted .kdbx file that you sync yourself among your devices by any means you can. There are official apps for Windows/Linux/Mac, browser extensions for Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Vivaldi, there's integration with ssh-agent, and 3rd-party apps for Android and iOS.

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

I don't think Keepass does syncing. I just leave the database in my Nextcloud sync folder on my desktop, and I can always pull the latest version to my phone. It'd be a bit more annoying if I routinely added new entries from my phone since Android won't let the NC app maintain bidirectional sync, but I pretty much always do it from my desktop, so the workflow is fine for me personally. If you do it on your phone, you can upload the changed version, but I think you'd have to do it manually, so not a great flow, but if it's a rarity, not too big a deal to me.

[–] anewfox@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

write a bash script that rsyncs your keepass database to your other devices and run it once in a while. i have seen way too many online password vaults get hacked to ever bother with them.

[–] basiliscos2@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

better to use p2p multi-device/os synchronization software like syncthing or syncspirit (disclaimer: I'm the author)