this post was submitted on 03 Nov 2026
590 points (97.3% liked)

World News

58938 readers
1638 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world

Ask Historians !askhistorians@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] bearforcepilot@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sure you do. We don't have to have every permutation of every technology.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's like saying you can have space exploration without ballistic missiles. Once the technology is there power and/or the market will do whatever it wants with it.

[–] bumblebeer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Except even moreso with language models. Here it is not just a similar technology, but the exact same vehicle.

Translation: The way scaling laws and gradient descent work for language models means that there is NO functional difference between a machine that does your homework and is designed to endlessly praise you, and a model specifically designed to identify viruses or medications.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

And a space ship can be used as a ballistic missile directly itself dude… There’s no difference, you’re arguing nothing.

Your research model can do anything an llm can and there’s nothing stopping someone. So how’s it different?

[–] bumblebeer@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago

I honestly don't know what point you are trying to make, but since you are clearly confused by my comment, let me try to further explain.

My claim: The observation that you can't have space exploration without ballistic missiles is correct. This analogy as applied to AI (specifically LLMs) is also correct, but falls short of perfect parity.

The gap — which is what I tried to address in my previous comment — is that for the aerospace example, space exploration vehicles are like ballistic missiles, but for LLMs those trained to do medical research or those trained to be a chat bot are often not just similar, but the exact same.

That was the point. An LLM built for research vs one built for chat are not just similar, like an ICBM vs a manned space vehicle, but are literally exactly the same object with no difference whatsoever.

This was my attempt to support the person I responded to against the critically uninformed, "Why don't we just have the one (medical research AI) without the other (chat bot)?" crowd. With the obvious answer being, "Because they are the same thing."

Q: So how’s it different? A: It's not. That was my point.