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[–] Jajcus@sh.itjust.works 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Making rape punishment equal to that for murder makes killing rape victims a most logical choice for any rapist. Justice system must be proportional and not based on emotions alone to be effective.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 1 points 17 minutes ago

This implies that raping someone is a decision made through reasonable logic. It’s not.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I get the theory, but it doesn't hold up to scrutiny, it's never been positivity shown that legislation effects criminal behavior to that extent, most criminals think ''I'll never get caught'' not ''I can stomach the punishment''

edit for all the down votes: longer sentences and less access to parole and bail for rapists and sexual abusers has happened, this has happened in CA where I live several times in fact, and murder rates have not gone up to meet the rate of rape or sexual abuse. this isn't a thing that's ever happened, and longer sentencing has never been shown to increase the rate of violent crimes, that's not how rapists have been shown to behave or think. also deciding I'm being emotional by suggesting rape needs to be treated like murder in sentencing is foolish, I clearly said the reason is that rapists shouldn't be allowed to reenter society, as they'll continue to be rapists, and seek victims.

[–] 0x0@infosec.pub 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

most criminals think ''I'll never get caught''

And dead lips don’t speak

[–] cecilkorik@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago

I think the point OP is making is that many of them already think "I'll never get caught". Not "I'll probably never get caught but I suppose I'll be slightly safer from getting caught if I kill this person", literally "I'll never get caught". There's very little logic that goes into perpetrating crimes of passion like this.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

most rapist target victims they know and can be connected to, family members, social relationships, romantic relationships, and work relationships, it's it MUCH harder to get away with murdering someone you know, than abusing them. killing them would almost certainly be attributed to the person they know that was motivated to harm them. if Brand killed any of his victims he targeted through his work connections, he would have been caught very very quickly. he's avoided jail for such a long time because abuse and rape carry enough stigma and trauma and the pressure of not being the person who's causing problem in your profession when you aren't in a position of power makes it hard for victims to report and pursue legal charges. killing these women wouldn't have solved any problem. over 90% of rape and sexual abuse is from someone that woman knows well. this is the tactic of rapist and abusers, to get into someone's life, and abuse them with the pressure of being their boss or romantic partner, or otherwise connected to them in a way that stops them from reporting that adds more stigma or trauma to stop them from talking, killing them might stop them from talking, but it goes from an unreported crime to a crime that will likely make headlines and draw significant attention and that 90% are known to the victim also means police won't have a hard time linking the victim to the murderer, so your suggestion that LONGER JAIL TIME for rapists will lead to every rapist becoming a murder, doesn't make sense. the pattern of abuse, and the outcomes of said abuse don't line up at all with murder being a logical solution to avoiding longer jail times.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We need faster processing of these cases and more sentences being delivered. Increasing the severity of punishment will lead to the opposite.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

those things don't conflict friend. I don't know why you think they would.