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And no, please dont suggest homeless shelters, those are just unsafe and very demoralizing.

The very first thing I looked for (and forgive me for this, this is gonna be a controvertial one here) is the military, because thats just what lots of reddit threads mentioned, and like it would be an immediate exit from a toxic household, and yes, that would mean enduring an institution thats also kinda toxic, but thats only a few years and you're free, and its much more predictable. Except they dont accept anyone with depression and you have to prove you're "fine" for probably 36 months to even get a waiver. So that's crossed off as an option.

Jobcorps, well thats for low income families, and being a dependent means your parents income is what counts so i dont qualify

Americorps NCCC, well that seems seasonal and the next thing doesnt start till like months later (not sure if I'm even reading the website correctly)

Ngl I lowkey just thought of enlisting so once I finish that, next time we meet, I could stand in front of my toxic brother just staring at him menacingly, like whatcha gonna do, fight with an ex-soldier? Not to mention the prestiege of veteran status. And btw its only 1% thats acrually ever gonna face real combat so its not like WW1&2 trench warfare, its mostly just logistics, and like a civillian job, you'd be contributing to shareholder value anyways so there isnt really much of a "moral highground" either way, except working a retail job or some shit is very demoralizing but military has the reverance. And also

But anyways I'm not eligible anytime soon anyways. I doubt I'm even "manly" enough for it.

~~Bruh idk what to do really, you know that one movie, Parasite where like they work in a rich person's mansion and that shit. I'm not a fan of rich people but like I lowkey wanna like just "housesitter" and chill in some nice mansion with great views, and maybe even find secrets and become a movie plot.~~ (edit: okay this part I'm half joking, its more like a fantasy daydream of "I get to be in a movie plot" probably unrealistic for someone that never been in proximity of high wealth)

I'm in Philly, PA btw.

(Also should I pack light with just a backpack and just one or two change of clothes and laundry often or just carry every clothing I could fit in a suitcase?)

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[–] n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Why do you need to move out? The lack of multigenerational homes is one of the reasons that Americans are so much in debt and have so little freedom despite having the largest economy in the world.

Save as much money as you can. If you can't stay with your nuclear family, find somewhere else you can. Living on your own is a really bad idea at least until you are married and have saved up enough for a 20% down payment on a house AND at least six months of living expenses. Otherwise you are just going to live the rest of your life as a slave to debt.

[–] WongKaKui@piefed.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I dont "need" to move out. I WANT to move out cuz I have a self esteem issue of feeling like a "leech" and I just wanna prove, and I mean prove to myself at least, that I could survive without my parent's control.

There's no immediate threat of getting kicked out but my mom literally combines the worse elements of both chinese culture of being controlling and american culture of "haha ur 18 bye" and saying shit like "you're over 18, i have no legal responsibility for you anymore" while simultaneously being controlling.

So its just I feel like crying all the time cuz I'm just being accused of being lazy all the time.

Its like I want to tell a story of "I built my own life" instead of feeling like "unemployed lose that 'live in mom's basement'" (I don't literally live in the basement but you get my point, its the stereotype thing)

[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 2 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

What interests you? What fields could you see yourself working in long term? Have you considered learning a trade (electrical, plumbing, carpentry, construction, etc.)?

In the short term there's nothing wrong with having a day job, just about anything to make some money. But it's also good to have some kind of vision for what you want your life to be in the long term.

feeling like a "leech" [...] prove to myself at least [...] feel like crying all the time [...] feeling like "unemployed lose that 'live in mom's basement'"

First, you need to separate your feelings from the objective fact that, right now at least, you are dependent on your parents.

On top of that, the economy sucks right now and it is difficult even for more qualified people to find sustainable, full-time jobs. You are not alone in being unemployed right now, and there are people of all levels of education, experience and all walks of life who are trying to figure out what they can do next. And as painful as it might be to hear this, you're much better off being unemployed living "in mom's basement", than being one of the many people who are unemployed while the bills continue to come in.

You do have to put in work, and you have to be honest with yourself about whether you are putting in a reasonable amount of effort to improving your life and helping around the house. But at the same time, employment isn't just a matter of effort and willpower, it's also a matter of opportunity and economics.

As for your feelings, it sucks to feel bad about yourself, and it's certainly not good to be in an environment where other people are constantly making you feel bad about yourself. What your parents might think is "tough love", meant to motivate you to work harder to improve your life, could be seriously contributing to your negative feelings about yourself, making it even harder for you to look at things objectively. I'm not trying to defend your parents or invalidate how you feel, or anything like that--they're making you feel bad about yourself and trying to control your life, and it probably is an unhealthy relationship that needs to change.

The best recommendation for you there is honestly therapy, and talking to a professional who can help you navigate how you feel about your situation.

[–] WongKaKui@piefed.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

What interests you? What fields could you see yourself working in long term? Have you considered learning a trade (electrical, plumbing, carpentry, construction, etc.)?

I want some computer related job. Well I dont have any coding knowledge tho, but like I can open a microsoft word and probably figure out how a spreadsheet works by googling it. I know how to google error codes. I know how to install linux and custom android roms, but idk how to use a terminal besides just basic "sudo apt-get" stuff, I mostly have to google everything.

[–] g8phcon2@k.fe.derate.me 2 points 1 hour ago

@WongKaKui@piefed.ca you might want to take the advice of @mrmaplebar@fedia.io here. If you are an American citizen who isn't in school and over 18 years old, you should qualify for Medicaid, or similar state program, which makes affording a therapist a lot easier than it is even for middle-class Americans.

[–] n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 hours ago

sounds like plenty of reasons to stay until you can build up your wealth.

Yeah that American culture is the problem, not the least of which the reverence for veterans you mentioned. Fight that, and sloth, rather than your family.