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And no, please dont suggest homeless shelters, those are just unsafe and very demoralizing.

The very first thing I looked for (and forgive me for this, this is gonna be a controvertial one here) is the military, because thats just what lots of reddit threads mentioned, and like it would be an immediate exit from a toxic household, and yes, that would mean enduring an institution thats also kinda toxic, but thats only a few years and you're free, and its much more predictable. Except they dont accept anyone with depression and you have to prove you're "fine" for probably 36 months to even get a waiver. So that's crossed off as an option.

Jobcorps, well thats for low income families, and being a dependent means your parents income is what counts so i dont qualify

Americorps NCCC, well that seems seasonal and the next thing doesnt start till like months later (not sure if I'm even reading the website correctly)

Ngl I lowkey just thought of enlisting so once I finish that, next time we meet, I could stand in front of my toxic brother just staring at him menacingly, like whatcha gonna do, fight with an ex-soldier? Not to mention the prestiege of veteran status. And btw its only 1% thats acrually ever gonna face real combat so its not like WW1&2 trench warfare, its mostly just logistics, and like a civillian job, you'd be contributing to shareholder value anyways so there isnt really much of a "moral highground" either way, except working a retail job or some shit is very demoralizing but military has the reverance. And also

But anyways I'm not eligible anytime soon anyways. I doubt I'm even "manly" enough for it.

~~Bruh idk what to do really, you know that one movie, Parasite where like they work in a rich person's mansion and that shit. I'm not a fan of rich people but like I lowkey wanna like just "housesitter" and chill in some nice mansion with great views, and maybe even find secrets and become a movie plot.~~ (edit: okay this part I'm half joking, its more like a fantasy daydream of "I get to be in a movie plot" probably unrealistic for someone that never been in proximity of high wealth)

I'm in Philly, PA btw.

(Also should I pack light with just a backpack and just one or two change of clothes and laundry often or just carry every clothing I could fit in a suitcase?)

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[–] FRYD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 49 minutes ago

Postal service is a bit of a slower option. It takes at most, two years of part time work to get a full time job, but that full time job can afford rent in cheaper areas and you can transfer anywhere in the country with no pay cut.

[–] NotAnOtter@lemmus.org 2 points 37 minutes ago (1 children)

Ok I know this really isn't what you're after, but have you considered taking 6 months to hike a long distance trail such as the AT or PCT? It only costs a few thousand for all the gear and permits and gets you out on your own for a good many months. Along the way you will develop survival and social skills which may find you in a better paying job. And for your dickhead brother, you could brag about that journey.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 minutes ago

A few thousand? I bet you could cut it down a lot more than that.In good weather, you just need a tarp to keep dry in the rain. You just really need food, and armies used to march on hard tack for months. Bring some multivitamins and some protein source (peanuts?) and I think you'd probably be ok? [Source: Thinking but not doing, feel free to correct.]

And if you're just avoiding reality, you don't need to travel 20 miles a day, so you don't need expensive boots, doubly so if you're travelling light.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 21 minutes ago (1 children)

can you take some community college and are you ok with blood. phlebotomy is one course and you can make above minimum wage within a thing that limits the applicant pool. if you take a few more courses they will generally pay you a bit better and you could use that as a springboard toward nursing.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 1 points 16 minutes ago (1 children)

CNA school is also usually only 3 months but is pretty physically intensive and you're stuck with the same patients for the whole shift which sucks if they're unpleasant.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 1 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 6 minutes ago)

yeah this guy wants to get out of the house fast though. there is enough demand and it has a nice ability to keep on expanding if you can handle whats needed for each degree level.

[–] Mantzy81@aussie.zone 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

From reading your responses, I don't think you should concentrate on moving out. Take the opportunities your privilege allows (e.g. having shelter and food) to work on yourself from that safe location. I would go to therapy and discover why youre feeling like this and in the meantime, do some work in a store or something. It's menial, sure, but it's something. If you feel like it, you can give your folks some money to feel like you're contributing.

[–] WongKaKui@piefed.ca 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I did therapy with 2 separate people, one was a 1st-gen Mandarin speaking lady with a weird accent (for context I'm also ethnically Chinese), another was a white male. Neither helped.

I had medications from a General Practitioner, Lexapro and Sertraline or something. And then later Wellbutrin/Buproprion combined with Hydroxyzine for sleep and anxiety. Nothing really helped but the hydroxyzine did suppress anxiety for a bit but it also makes me tired af and kinda brainfog.

So I just ghosted them and stopped taking the medications.

I think people in Philly, and perhaps most big cities, have this weird attitude against their "paitients" (aka people they wanna milk money from)

And no giving them money wouldnt feel like contributing. Commingling of assets and then they would only tell you how much they "love" your and "omg we sacrafises so much", and any money you give them would only be repaying a debt that you'll never be able to finish paying, the debt of my birthmother giving birth to me and raising me for 18+ years. So... my desire was a clear boundary, both financially and physically. Even just for a a few months to maybe 2 years (and maybe beyond that)

Like I dont mind using their house as a temporty stop in between different seasonal gigs or something, but i dont wanna stay for long. I want a "safe space" that no parent, no sibling, no drugaddicts or burglars, would be able to breach into.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

If you're fluent in both get an interpreter certification. In healthcare and probably some other high reliability industries we're not yet at the point where TTS / STT and ai translation can fully interpret yet. Specialty languages like Mandarin take a long time to connect so there's probably a shortage (I know it's got the most speakers worldwide, but the most common 2nd language in the US is Spanish). It's also a telework job, it's almost entirely done by phone / video call these days. You might need to brush up on medical terminology specifically and the finer points of exact translation but if you already know the language that's probably not a huge leap. I'm thinking that's going to get automated in the next 5-10 years but it should get you out nowish which sounds like the goal.

[–] g8phcon2@k.fe.derate.me 2 points 28 minutes ago

Do you speak Mandarin? Doesn't China have some kind of program for "re-immigration" of people of Chinese descent? I recall reading articles about young adult unemployment being even worse there, but that may have been focused only on college grads looking for college level work, rather than a strong young body willing to work a factory and stay in company housing.

[–] g8phcon2@k.fe.derate.me 1 points 42 minutes ago

Except they don't accept anyone with depression, and you have to prove you're "fine" for probably 36 months to even get a waiver.

Seeing how many soldiers commit suicide, 36 months might be too short to waiver out depressed service members. https://www.bu.edu/articles/2024/suicide-now-the-primary-cause-of-death-among-active-duty-us-soldiers/

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 2 points 1 hour ago

You could enroll in college and get loans to pay for a dorm, but 2weeks is short notice and a degree is no guarantee of success. They can definitely help though, and it's good to have a well rounded education not to mention networking opportunities.

If you don't have to move out, consider staying though. You could always start with a community college or trade school while you stay.

[–] BobLunch@lemmy.today 8 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Have you looked into working with the National Parks? A lot of their entry level positions only require a HS level education, and many parks offer employee housing. I've heard it's quite competitive (both for jobs and for housing) but it's still worth considering. State parks, DNR, BLM, etc. might be an option too depending on where you live.

[–] baahb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Dunno how to give you advice. "Want out immediately, but not so immediately as to be homeless" and "military is kinda appealing, but there might be a waitlist if you have depression." And "I dont want to do demeaning minimum wage jobs" all kinda conflict with one another. Also, the fuck you worrying about prestige for? That's ridiculous, either get in the house or get out. Prestige ain't got shit to do with it.

[–] WongKaKui@piefed.ca 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Also, the fuck you worrying about prestige for? That’s ridiculous, either get in the house or get out. Prestige ain’t got shit to do with it.

Cuz my older brother (he's like 29 and we still live together) keeps shittalking me and say shit like "you'll never be good enough for anything, maybe you should just be a janitor" cuz he has a college degree. (Even though he only has a normal job and never got to use the degree and the job isnt even degree related.)

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 17 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I have multiple degrees and your brother is a dickhead. Also, janitors are important, anyone looking down on them is a fool.

Some universities even give you a tuition waiver if you work there full time, even as a janitor. Good way to get a degree, benefits usually aren't bad either.

[–] g8phcon2@k.fe.derate.me 12 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

I remember being a kid and teachers telling us stuff like "you'll end up as a garbage man" only years later to find out unionized garbage men make more money than public school teachers.

[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 2 points 1 hour ago

They definitely make a decent amount in most places.

[–] Soulphite@reddthat.com 1 points 1 hour ago

And they find some pretty cool shit people toss away.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 13 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

You could look into WWOOFing. Basically participating owners of small farms provide you 3 meals a day and a place to sleep in return for helping out about half of every day. Seems like a decent option until you can get your feet under you, and would afford you enough time (the second half of the day) to figure that out.

Granted, in the winter you'll have fewer options (animals and greenhouses mostly).

[–] AskewLord@piefed.social 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

WOOFing is for rich college kids who have a nice home to go back to after their 'adventure', not GED holders who need to work to support themselves.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 minute ago

Why? It seems like a lot of farms just love free labor, but, sure, I don't doubt there's some implicit classism there.

[–] justdaveisfine@piefed.social 4 points 2 hours ago

If you're handy, some apartment/condos offer a discount on living at the location while you work there, such as doing maintenance or groundskeeping or such.

Doing maintenance isn't a glamorous job, and you'd likely be on call, but its a living and does have some career progression.

[–] bitofarambler@crazypeople.online 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

hey there, i've been traveling for 15 years and taught for 7, teaching English abroad seems to fit what you're looking for.

jobs are available today in dozens of countries, several of them have no requirement other than being a native English speaker, ~25 working hours per week, it's very cheap to live abroad, so even if you're making a thousand usd equivalent a month(starting without any degree, accreditation or experience), you can still begin saving money, and since you mentioned prestige, teachers are highly respected everywhere I've been.

especially if you have no idea what you want to do, but you need to move out, get your own place and start saving money immediately, there are over a billion esl students looking for a teacher. Every month you spend teaching is valuable work experience, you can get a lifetime TEFL(teaching english as a foreign language) accreditation in a couple of weeks with a self-directed pdf course that will raise your salary and negotiating power.

if you're interested, feel free to ask questions here or in the travel community, i taught abroad for several years, retired and have been traveling ever since.

if you're lucky enough to be a fluent english speaker, it's a very low-barrier, high-reward job.

[–] BobLunch@lemmy.today 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Before considering this option, OP, you should listen to accounts of people who have actually done it (good and bad). Some people have had absolute NIGHTMARE experiences, like getting trapped in their host country and unable to quit because their employer refuses to give back their passport or other documents. And while I'm no expert, I would say that any company willing to hire teachers with only a GED/HS diploma is worth raising an eyebrow at.

Some people have amazing experiences teaching abroad - I don't want to make it sound all bad! It sounds like you had a great experience and I definitely don't mean to knock that. But it's worth noting there are a fair few sketchy players in the game, and it's important that OP does heavy heavy research as the consequences of getting involved with one of these companies can be dire.

[–] bitofarambler@crazypeople.online 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

OP, you should listen to accounts of people who have actually done it

that's me. i taught english abroad(for ~7 years) starting with zero experience or accreditation, ended up running two schools before retiring, and I'm still traveling 15 years later.

the "sketchy players" in education are, in theory, the same concentration whether you're a lawyer, flipping burgers, or teaching english, although because the demand is so much higher for english teachers than in other fields, the risk for an english teacher is lower.

[–] BobLunch@lemmy.today 2 points 54 minutes ago

Like I said, I don't mean to deny your positive experience, nor suggest that someone can't have a positive experience teaching abroad. I've heard a lot of genuinely good experiences. But the consequences of working for a bad employer abroad can truly mess up your life in a way that flipping burgers in Fresno or filing legal paperwork in St. Louis just can't, no matter how terrible the employees are stateside. Burger King can't hold your passport hostage.

I also think OP's mental health status shouldn't be discounted here. A lot of the negative experiences I've heard are related to loneliness and mental struggles working abroad, especially in countries where English-speaking mental healthcare is lacking or absent entirely. It's one thing to be depressed, young, and isolated in your home country. It's a whole different beast to be depressed, young, and isolated in a country where you don't even speak the local language, and where the closest familiar face is several thousand miles away.

I feel the need to reiterate again that this isn't everyone's experience, just that working abroad is a huge commitment and needs to be considered from every angle. I'm glad you're here to share a positive perspective!

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

At this point, the question isn't if the military will take you w/ a history of depression, but whether they a would put you in a situation where you'd want to kill yourself.

I'd say if you're in a hurry, retail while you live in a car until you can find a roommate situation. While you're in your car, apply for homeless assistance, and you might land a private room in a shelter eventually, which is way cooler than the open barracks of emergency shelters.

[–] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah... I had a friend in highschool who went down the path of not knowing what to do with himself, enlisting in the military, and ultimately ending his own life. I only found out years later so I'm not sure of the circumstances that lead him to it, or even if his time in the army contributed to his feelings. But it's very sad, either way.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, I imagine a lot of lost people would turn to the military and I doubt it's a good environment for people with mentla health issues, given how many people come out of it with PTSD.

[–] WongKaKui@piefed.ca 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I dont own a car

I have access to cars, but those are my parents, its not like they're gonna let me have one, they need it for work and transporting tools and stuff, so I might be able to borrow them temporary at most.

But I dont have a drivers license

[–] g8phcon2@k.fe.derate.me 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Why don't you have a driver's license? I suspect there are some bigger issues at play here.

[–] WongKaKui@piefed.ca 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Um... I never got one. 👀

Just the um "yeah I'mma get a drivers license some day"...

a few years later

...

[–] fancy-straw-simple@piefed.ca 0 points 45 minutes ago (1 children)

Not that I want to be that guy, but you might want to look in that mirror and check out the laziness thing.

[–] WongKaKui@piefed.ca 1 points 40 minutes ago* (last edited 38 minutes ago)

So what do I do. Ask my parents money for driving lessons. Lmfao, "just ask dad to teach you" then he never has time.

But I cannot get a learners permit because PA is so stupid and requires a medical exam for a fucking drivers license and the doctor never signed off on it. Because of the fucking depression. So I guess I could drive without a license, like who cares about laws really.

I mean maybe I just dont belong in this world honestly. So much shit going on.

[–] fancy-straw-simple@piefed.ca 1 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Except they dont accept anyone with depression and you have to prove you’re “fine” for probably 36 months to even get a waiver

Join the Russian army
The signing bonus is $25,000, and the monthly salary is $2,600.
Telegram https://t.me/Russian_army01

[–] WongKaKui@piefed.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

LMFAO xD, nah fam. But I would join for Ukraine, but unfortunately they need veterans, they wont even accept an amateur like me.

[–] g8phcon2@k.fe.derate.me 3 points 1 hour ago

this may be the worst idea I have ever heard. Get you out of the house, sure, but you ain't ever coming back. If you don't speak Russian and don't have some out-of-this-world skills that a recent high school drop-out probably doesn't have, you are going on the front lines to shot by Ukrainians. I don't think you'd make 3 weeks after basic training.

[–] n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago (5 children)

Why do you need to move out? The lack of multigenerational homes is one of the reasons that Americans are so much in debt and have so little freedom despite having the largest economy in the world.

Save as much money as you can. If you can't stay with your nuclear family, find somewhere else you can. Living on your own is a really bad idea at least until you are married and have saved up enough for a 20% down payment on a house AND at least six months of living expenses. Otherwise you are just going to live the rest of your life as a slave to debt.

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[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Food service or retail. Two fields that are always hiring.

[–] g8phcon2@k.fe.derate.me 2 points 1 hour ago

@WongKaKui@piefed.ca and that can just be temporty, like perhaps even just weeks, while you keep looking for something better, like factory work. And if you live in a big city like Philly, especially this time a year, you might want to look at something like UPS. You don't need a driver license to work in a shipping facility, and they are usually teamsters' union members, though you might end up starting as a tempory contractor for the holidays and then be first in line for a union job come next year.

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