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You mean to tell me running sfc /scannow and DISM.exe didn't fix the problem?

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 42 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

SMTP is about as simple as it can get. There’s no good reason for mail delivery to be affected. It should still be moving emails around even if you can’t access them.

But MS has extended SMTP so hard they have no idea how it works anymore or how to properly troubleshoot it.

[–] SpaghettiMaster@feddit.uk 14 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

SMTP is about as simple as it can get

Tell that to the "senior network engineer" I am trying to get to unblock SMTP for the server running our software on their network. Its coming up to 2 weeks now.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 13 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

The problem with SMTP is that it is too simple. There is a complete lack of security, so different implementations have had layers added on top to harden them, which adds to the complexity. Not all layers are standardised or compatible, which means that what should be relatively simple becomes an untenable mess.

It isn’t something that can be proprietarised easily so companies need to also add their own proprietary layers in order to monetise their product, which adds more untenable.

If your “senior network engineer” is more concerned about your SMTP server becoming a SPAM relay than your product being usable for its intended purpose, which is why it is still down.

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

A spam relay quickly becomes unusable.

[–] SpaghettiMaster@feddit.uk 0 points 8 hours ago

The app server isn't running the SMTP server, it can't connect to one. We would also be happy for them to run their own SMTP server and point it at that instead if they wish.

[–] criscodisco@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

“Blame the network”

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 18 points 10 hours ago

I would assume they've broken their DNS servers or some other similarly low-level infrastructure to the point where something just isn't resolving behind the scenes anymore.