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[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 48 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Welp, at this point anyone calling the us any form of democracy has to put the clown makeup on thick first.

You have a two party system with one party having no access to anyone not on a list of approved individuals vs the other party having a glorious leader and no access to anyone unless approved. The real sad part is only one of those two cares about holding power, so you have a nation of fascists (remember they did win that election) and a bunch of people who can claim some sort of moral high ground.

[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Given republicans are now fascists its maybe a little cheeky to post this. I think its like "dems: long windy path to fascism" "republicans: direct, immediate trap door to fascism"

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Democrats: The scenic route to Fascism!

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not just that but corporate Dems are status quo-ers and same-ers. Fascists actively want regressive policies, progressives want progress, and centrists want nothing. Genuinely they roadblock everyone on purpose because they don't like change. Given the choice between progress (change they've never seen before, hasnt been done, havent considered) and regress (change they are familiar with so it feels more "same" for them), they often side with regress but not always. Regressives also can appeal to centrist's love of the same by making them think they can balance incremental progress with incremental regressive policies, which the Dems agree is a fair trade because they DO NOT WANT CHANGE.*

But you can't teally run a campaign on "Let's do NOTHING!"

Dems were an active thorn in the regressive side for a long time and it was them who forced the slow drip regressive and progressive movements. Some (me) might call it a genuine failure of them to actually do their job of governing and responding to urgent political matters using up to date resources at their disposal. Some (me) might say it is because their job, what they get paid for, is to suck up to the wealthy and do what they are told, and then make speeches to soothe voters that they don't care about anyway.

I will say the list of good Dems is longer than what a lot of you have written. Maxwell Frost, Al Green, Melanie Sransbury, Stacey Abrams, that rep from Massachusetts with the hair, Jasmine Crockett... probably more. It isn't just AOC and Bernie doing a good job, we have others

** Examples: Progressives want healthcare for all. Regressives (fascists) want no healthcare for anyone. Samers say, hey, this healthcare thing is popular, so we have to pass something but nothing too "crazy" (free healthcare models have been in human society for thousands of years yet progressives are always seen as "crazy"). So they then use regressive, slave-based policies to attach your healthcare to your work status. And feel like they've really done something there

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

basically its a uniparty, justa coalition of the 2 sides, more often than not they pass things benefit themselves and the donors more than the actual voters. most of the time its backdoor deals between the 2 parties and the donors, that doesnt make news, because msm will not let it happen. GOP gets to enact thier plan in exchange for dems enacting some of thiers.

[–] TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

It's a power sharing agreement.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Makes sense if you can limit who can run in the party there is zero threat to you from the general population. I think it is stranger that people think the voters in such a system have real power.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 3 days ago

the culture war distractions are the only polarizing item in the 2 parties to keep them divided with a little help from grifters back by my krasnovs handlers., its basically distraction, to the backdoor deals. the tax cuts almost never get repealed when the D get into power, or through reconciliation because DInos are still there.