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TLDR: Drug dealers in Catalonia have started to adopt GrapheneOS en masse leading to Catalan police suspecting anyone with a Google Pixel is a drug dealer

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[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 28 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Been on it for ~2 years and never going back, fuck Google, fuck the government.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I've also been using it for like 2 years but I really want the hardware of something like the Fairphone. A fairphone or something similar with Graphene would be amazing

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 10 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

The Graphene OS people have always been talking about how they eventually intend to develop their own hardware. So, possibly they will make something good eventually.

[–] bilb@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 hours ago

Not develop their own hardware, but contract an established manufacturer to do it for them. Which is good, they have no business doing hardware!

[–] lmuel@sopuli.xyz 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Well you still bought a Google phone

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 16 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

True, with the intention of installing Graphene OS on it. No other options.

[–] match@pawb.social 5 points 4 hours ago

They're easy to get used!

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Strange that google is the only option for the only "secure" operating system.
Hey, do you know what is Ring Level minus One ?

[–] mikey@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 minutes ago

Strange that google is the only option for the only "secure" operating system.

The have their reasons: https://grapheneos.org/faq#future-devices

Hey, do you know what is Ring Level minus One ?

I know you're only trolling here and I'm feeding into it, but you nerd sniped me just right to explain why your question is stupid on multiple fronts.

First of all, "Ring -1" is the hypervisor, at least on virtualization-capable devices (which modern Pixels are), and the hypervisor will be Linux's KVM in this case, which is open source and compiled by the Graphene team as part of the kernel from source.

Secondly, Arm (which is the architecture basically all phone chips use, including Pixels) has a slightly different model of security, where apps are Exception Level 0, the OS is EL1, the hypervisor is EL2, and the "secure monitor" (or management firmware) is EL3 (and is probably what you were trying to refer to).

So yeah, I don't think you know what "Ring -1" is. At least not enough to warrant a snarky comment.