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UK police hold pro-Palestine protester, 80, for almost 27 hours and search house
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Why has liberal-ruled Britain become attack dogs for Israel?
Because liberalism is a hypocritical ideology.
The USA built itself off genocide and colonialism and has spent the last three centuries expanding its empire to every continent (and has long-since been an attack dog for Israel).
France endorsed liberty, equality, and fraternity at home and horrors abroad in Haiti and Algeria.
To the credit of the Liberal Party, they were much less imperialist than the Whigs they derived from or Tories. This is not to say that they were truly opposed to imperialism. Cecil Rhodes was a Liberal.
In all of these cases, the colonial adventures did not occur despite liberalism but were justified by it. We must bring enlightened civilization to the savages, you see. Locke and Mill, two foundational British figures of liberalism, were both supporters of colonialism.
Britain was never liberal.
The very same people harping about "gay rights" would also be writing scatting opinion articles against something or other they believe was a moral perversion (for example, men who used sex dolls) with not the least bit self-awareness about how those articles were very much like those that used to be written against homosexuality, just with a different group being targeted.
The middle class in that place is big on doing what is fashionable and makes them look good socially (keeping up with appearances) which means certain minorities which are now fashionable to support get a lot of loud, performative support, but those actions are seldom driven by actual Principles about Freedom (quite the contrary, the place is big on people "knowing their place" and has a ton of laws meant to silence and push-back on those who are loudly contrarians outside a few "permitted" domains).
Having lived in a couple of places in Europe, including Britain and The Netherlands, in my opinion Britain is actually unusually conservative for an European country.
So much for "liberal" government.
Well, it's American-style "liberal": hard neoliberal with some of performative (rather than principled) moral liberalism.
It's definitely not Liberal in the sense of taking a principled stance for people's freedom, as made painfully obvious by what they're doing against anti-Genocide protestors.
I would even say they're more towards the Authoritarian side than the Liberal one.
Money says AIPAC money bought their politicians like they have in America. If I could wipe any organization off the Earth, AIPAC would be right behind Fox News. Fucking poison.
Labour had to defend themselves against anti-semitism claims for years (usually from extremely low level Muslim councillors), so now they're going the other way entirely. And Tories aren't going to get in the way of that, because they fucking love cruelty.
But the next prime minister of the UK is going to be the one who promises to bring back all the free porn, so we don't have to ask for permission to have a wank to take our mind off everything.
I just don't get how AIPAC has so much leverage over the US
Lobbyists spend very little money to catch political ears. Look into it! I have. Stunning that a major company can drop $20,000 in pocket change and get in their pants.
AIPIC has got extra juice! Since WWII, being branded an anti-Semite is political poison. They don't have to spend much money, just tell the pol, "Do as I say or we go scorched Earth on your happy ass!" Works. FFS, we have video and images of Israel actively committing genocide, murdering woman and children and people trying to get food. And what are the headlines? "$group warns of genocide!" "$group warns of mass starvation!" You mean shit that's already happening YESTERDAY?!
Try saying anything negative, in any way, in any venue, use the word Jew. You will be excoriated and banned. Notice how every single post here makes certain to make the distinction between "Jew" and "Zionist"? I mean, it's true, preaching to the choir guys, but the eggshell fire-walking is kinda nuts. And Jews don't seem to have clue why international antisemitism is on the rise.
Not being snarky, I'm actually afraid to use the word, anywhere. That's how deep the insanity goes. Watch me catch a ban for saying I'm uncomfortable using "Jew", in any context. Watch 12 people explain that Jews are not necessarily Zionists. I GET that. But someone will comment!
Maybe I'm the commenter you're looking for, but this seems like an overgeneralization. I have several Jewish friends who are under no illusions about Israel, and who are quite clear about how Netanyahu and his ilk are consciously and cynically fueling antisemitism, not least by throwing around accusations if it against anyone who criticizes the genocide they are perpetrating. So saying "Jews don't seem to have [any] clue" feels heavy-handed.
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For context, I'm a 54yo atheist and had always supported Israel. Poor underdogs! Nah. Now Israel is the Third Reich, and fuck them, all of their supporters.
Sickening how we have to repeat history every time our grandparents die out.