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[–] Davriellelouna@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

There is no environmental policy that is compatible with the existence of individuals with the net worth of a small sovereign nation.

I agree. Billionaires are a huge problem.

Yes, eat the rich.

This slogan is how you lose an election.

First lesson of politics: You don't need to win your supporters. You can't convince your enemies. You need to win those who are unsure

[–] vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Not saying what you stand for in a futile attempt to appel to the “middle” (which doesn’t take exist, it’s just right wingers hiding their power level) is also how you lose an election.

“Eat the rich” is great messaging for the radical wing of your party. Then the main group has to hem and haw a bit and talk about actual policy. Then the radical guy goes “of course that’s what I mean (wink wink).

Then the radical guy goes “ACAB”, and the main group has an opening to talk about how the administration of justice works in practice for people that don’t look like me. And then again, radical guy goes “yeah that (but also ACAB)”.

The right has been doing this for literal ages with way less popular things. It’s how you get the fringes inside the big tent.

If you really think a guy going “eat the rich” loses elections, you have NOT been paying attention.

[–] traceur201@piefed.social 8 points 5 days ago

we need more of this and less of what that other person is selling

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 9 points 5 days ago

Well the Greens lost about a million supporters in the last election. This constant thinking in terms of tactics instead of proper positions, is one of the reasons why the "center" parties have been failing and then moving hard to the right, only further failing.

What decides how people vote for the most part, is what the public discourse is about. By parroting right and far right positions, the Greens and the SPD helped strengthen the Fascists. Instead what would have been needed is a "left" alternative as in supporting the constitutional and basic human rights of people, limiting the influence of money on politics and modernizing infrastructure based on proper tax income (wealth tax, inheritance tax without loopholes.) Instead the Greens went for "tough on crime and deport the brown people!"