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Him and everyone before him, we only judge him harsher because he was the first to give the slightest glimmer of hope for change and feel betrayed. I was embarrassed to wear my Obama 2008 shirt for a long time for those same reasons, but now it reminds me of America when we at least a decent competent people in office and i wear it nostalgically
Well, that and the kill list, supporting torture, maintaining black sites, militarizing the police, brutalizing Occupy, bailing out the big banks and doing nothing to help the foreclosed, etc. etc. etc.
He gave great speeches, but he was a shitty, evil president.
https://www.npr.org/2017/01/20/510799842/obama-leaves-office-as-deporter-in-chief
Extrajudicial killing of US citizens...
Hope you live long enough to see otherwise in your life. I already gambled by not voting for Hillary so we can get someone "better" after Trump, but I don't think MAGA taking power has helped on that or any of your points either so I won't be doubling down on that play next time.
My only goal is to not see this decline progress to where fascism has progressed in the past, and I'll defer my dreams of a progressive utopian society if need be. But if we get a progressive superman who has a shot and will deliver on all our hopes and dreams then they'll certainly have my vote.
But I'm not going to delude myself about my options. I have kids now and my choices will affect them far more than me: things like ICE gestapo stripping their citizenship and deporting them to Uganda are the types of things that keep me up these days. Didn't have that under Obama, not going to gamble again.
Yes we did. The only difference was that it was Muslims being targeted.
Go look up who it was that appointed Tom Homan.
You can't seriously be arguing that it was just as worse as it is now, even for Muslims.
Ah, I see. You prefer MLK 2's smiling fox to the snarling wolf.
Totally.
It is unfair for me to point out Obama's contributions to the fascist state. After all, he gave such great speeches.
It's unfair of you to not consider the scope and breath and intensity of the issues you discuss yes, because they are very much relevant to the people alive today even if they don't factor into your ideal world.
I voted for her and watched her cult of fash-lites blame me for trump anyway. Same as is happening now with Harris.
Still got my T-shirt! When Trump won in 2016, I told my ex-wife, "The Obama's were a classy family, and not this."