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A scientist has made the shocking claim that there's a 49% chance the world will end in just 25 years. Jared Diamond, American scientist and historian, predicted civilisation could collapse by 2050. He told Intelligencer: "I would estimate the chances are about 49% that the world as we know it will collapse by about 2050."

Diamond explained that fisheries and farms across the globe are being "managed unsustainably", causing resources to be depleted at an alarming rate. He added: "At the rate we’re going now, resources that are essential for complex societies are being managed unsustainably. Fisheries around the world, most fisheries are being managed unsustainably, and they’re getting depleted.

"Farms around the world, most farms are being managed unsustainably. Soil, topsoil around the world. Fresh water around the world is being managed unsustainably."

The Pulitzer Prize winning author warned that we must come up with more sustainable practices by 2050, "or it'll be too late".

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[–] tree_frog_and_rain@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Civilization doesn't equal the world. Life will carry on and heal from the damage us 'smart apes' have done in our hubris.

[–] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This argument frustrates me greatly. Humans are far more adaptable than most other species, and the damage we are already doing to less adaptable species and ecosystems is incalculable and irreversible. We will kill off much of Earth's life long before we manage to destroy ourselves.

Species are going extinct at a rate of 1,000 to 10,000 times faster than the normal "background rate" of extinction, driven by habitat loss, climate change, and pollution. Every species that we drive to extinction represents a multi-billion year legacy that will never return. Arguing that life will continue after the collapse of humanity is only partly true. There are a hell of a lot of species that will never continue, because our actions destroyed them.

We're also roughly at the halfway point of Earth's ability to support complex life, which emerged about a half billion years ago and has roughly another half billion years before the increased heat of the aging sun disrupts carbonate weathering to the extent that one of the main pathways of photosynthesis is no longer possible. Yes, during that 500 million years, in the absence of ongoing anthropogenic extinction, species will again diversify to fill the gaps. But there will be no tigers or elephants or rhinoceros after humanity, just as there were no non-avian dinosaurs after the asteroid.

[–] tree_frog_and_rain@lemmy.world 1 points 19 hours ago

I'm not making an argument. I'm learning to identify with a bigger picture for my sanity.

My heart weeps greatly for all of the species that are going extinct on this planet.

And I find some hope that life itself will continue here, even if it's not complex life. Life has survived extinction events before. Life is adaptable.

I'm trying to be less attached to the form life takes, because I can't stop climate change.

So it's something that gives me peace. It's not an argument that what is happening is right. Because it's not.

[–] Blueberrydreamer@lemmynsfw.com 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yeah, obviously. But that doesn't do my child a damn bit of good now does it?

Is that what you think people are worried about? Planetary death has never really been on the table, that's just the ignorant parroting things that were misunderstood.

I have a kid too, and it eats at me.

But I find comfort in the fact that life will carry on, even if my kid can never have the future I hoped for him when he was born.

It's what gives me some comfort. Taking a larger perspective than just worrying about how humanity will fair.

Yeah this is just a diversion from the misanthropic

[–] Brutticus@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago

"civilization" doesn't even include humanity or technology.