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They shouldn't be able to do that!

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[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I'd call what you're describing "muting" rather than blocking.

I used to agree with you, but then I spoke with some people from persecuted minorities, and this style of blocking just gives power to their abusers rather than keeping their communities and themselves safe.

Yes they can get a new account, but it's another hurdle, and if we erect enough hurdles then it'll catch enough of them. Defense in depth.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

We've seen the problems with Reddit's style of blocking already.

If someone's being truly abusive, that's something you should report to moderators or instance admins.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I agree it has problems, but that doesn't mean that anything is better.

Reporting someone is good, but isn't that subject to the exact same reasons why "it won't work"? If reddit style blocking someone isn't effective anyways, why would admin bans be effective?
This assumes that admins and mods even have the capacity to deal with all this shit, which seems to be very uncertain.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 6 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I don't understand what you mean. Moderator bans do work, that's a moderator's job.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

a common response I've been getting is "blocking doesn't work, they just need to make a new account"
but then they say "if its really a problem, then they just need to report the user"
but if making a new account would defeat blocking, then making a new account would defeat reporting a user. its either effective in both places or neither place.

[–] missingno@fedia.io 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That isn't what I said. You're replying to me to talk about somebody else's argument, while completely ignoring mine.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago

sorry i was getting it mixed up, i've had a very similar conversations a few times and that rebuttal came up multiple times.

mods and admins are overworked, and they can't always be expected to keep up to date with dogwhistles along with everything else they have to manage. besides, harassment doesn't always appear to break ToS - starting rumours and spreading lies about someone can be very difficult to prove to a mod, but can have huge repercussions in some communities.
and besides, it can take a while before mods/admins are able to take action.

IMO I think a few things should exist.

I should be able to prevent someone from replying to my content even if I can't prevent them from seeing it.
Additionally, I think there should be a best effort to make invite-only/private communities. I know that the fediverse makes this technically difficult, but having something is better than having nothing.