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They shouldn't be able to do that!

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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what you're suggesting. If a gaming community's members are harassing a trans community, could the trans community's moderators not simply ban everyone from that gaming community from the trans community? That's a power that moderators have. You could also report the gaming community to the administrators of their instance and if the administrators thought it was a problem they could shut down that community. You could also ask your own instance's administrators to defederate from the gaming community's instance. All of those things are things that can be done with the way the Fediverse is currently set up.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

all of those are unrealistic options

I said that forking the community to begin with isn't realistic. There would be no "trans-friendly gaming" community because it wouldn't have enough members to sustain it. Lemmy is too small to sustain multiple communities for the same topic, for all but the most popular topics. When you see multiple communities for a topic, almost always all but one is a ghost town.

so splitting the community, or defederating aren't really options
hopefully going to mod, or failing that the admin, would be successful. but mods and admins are criminally overworked already, and lemmy is too small to maintain a healthy mod pool.

I don't have great technical solutions here, unfortunately.
I'm just trying to explain that what OP wants is reasonable, and everyone here shitting on him is not being reasonable.

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm just trying to explain that what OP wants is reasonable,

And I maintain that it's not reasonable. You (and OP) want individual users to be able to control what other individual users can see and do on the Fediverse. They've tried that on Reddit. RunawayFixer found this experiment, for example. The results were not good from a pragmatic perspective, let alone a philosophical one.

I think you're going to have to accept that in a free environment there are going to be people saying things and reading things that you don't approve of. You can create a community with whatever rules you want to enforce there, but you can't enforce your rules on other communities. Just as they can't enforce them on yours.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not trying to enforce rules on other communities.
im not even trying to enforce rules on any community

reddit-style blocking would allow the person to continue to be in that community, they wouldn't even need to be kicked out.

its crazy that you're framing personally blocking someone so they cant reply to it as though I'm changing the rules for lemmy communities.

Like, OP wasn't even saying that blocking someone should hide my content from the person I blocked, just that it should stop them from replying to it. it doesn't even have to be reddit style, it just has to be more than shutting your eyes and ears and saying "lalalalala"

[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

its crazy that you're framing personally blocking someone so they cant reply to it as though I'm changing the rules for lemmy communities.

It is, though. By your actions you would change what someone else is able to do, regardless of what community they're in. By blocking someone you're creating a new rule on what that someone is allowed to do and see across all of the Fediverse.

That's the fundamental disagreement here. I don't think this is acceptable. You can change what you see, and moderators can change who and what is allowed inside their community, but nothing you do should be affecting what someone else can do across all of the Fediverse.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

then make the block community-specific.
thats fine

nobody said it had to be fediverse-wide.