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"it is my obligation as a Jewish person to distinguish Jews from the state of Israel. Our religion and our culture is such an important and long-standing institution that is separate to this sort of ethnonationalist state"

"I cannot work with somebody who justifies or supports the genocide. I can't. It's as simple as that, and we shouldn't be able to do that. In this industry, and in any other industry,"

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The position "I don't care about factions, group, tribes or whatever other fucked up up of reducing humans to labels, what I care about is innocent people being made to suffer" is surprisingly badly taken at times even around here.

I've had my posts swamped by downvotes at least once by saying "I not pro-Palestine, I'm pro-People" as if I have to favor factions rather than, you know, being against the victimization of people who did nothing to deserve it quite independently of whatever label they're tagged with.

Even people whose heart is in the right place nowadays seem to come at it from a "chose a faction" angle rather than from a Principled Humanist one.

It's way easier to manipulate people who support factions (just look at how the Zionists weaponized the support for the Jewish People) than it is to manipulate people who see things based on principles like "people who do no harm to others shouldn't be harmed" as the latter will judge actions based on their merits alone, not on the labels of the people involved.

[–] InputZero@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I've had my posts swamped by downvotes at least once by saying "I not pro-Palestine, I'm pro-People" as if I have to favor factions rather than, you know, being against the victimization of people who did nothing to deserve it quite independently of whatever label they're tagged with.

I think part of the reason being pro-people makes others angry is because everyone is so polarized politically. A lot more people than usual are approaching politics expecting that you're either supporting my ideals or not supporting them. Which may as well be opposing them and opposing 'our' ideals is your moral failing. Nuance is gone, the political center is gone. At least until there are some serious changes.