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Israeli politicians react bitterly to international recognitions of Palestinian state
(www.theguardian.com)
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Further evidence that balkanization won't solve anything. The only way to peace is a total worldwide boycott of Israel until the regime falls and then the establishment of one secular state that isn't inherently abusive and oppressive based on ethnicity, religion, and ancestry.
It worked with the South African Apartheid regime in the 90s and if it'll work with the Israeli apartheid regime now.
I mean.
"Worked" is a pretty generous term to use for South Africa.
Everything I hear about it says that it's a borderline failed state rife with violence.
Obviously keeping apartheid going would have been fucking monstrous but the country is not exactly thriving.
Might want to be more critical of your sources. While there's indeed significant problems, the extent is exaggerated to extreme degrees by white supremacists and other people who want it to return to Apartheid.
Besides, much like the US since the civil war, conditions would be worse in the short term but MUCH better now if not for the leniency of the ANC with regards to the Apartheid regime and its enablers.
Actually holding the Israeli apartheid regime and its enablers both domestic and international responsible for their crimes against humanity is a necessary part of the path to lasting peace and justice.
https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/south-africa
I can find sources that talk about how dangerous the country is for days, but my governments travel warning recently made me rethink a trip to Nepal so they have my faith.
I really don't think it is exaggerated.
You know that it's possible to admit that the country has major fucking problems and also believe that apartheid is a horrible and inhuman system of oppression right?
To refine the point you made: white supremacists exaggerate the black on white crime in South Africa to argue for a return to apartheid. To acknowledge the high incidence of violent crime in the country is entirely different than cherry picking or making up facts to support a narrow and racist agenda.
The solution is neither a return to apartheid nor is it, obviously, the state of things now. I don't know what the solution is, but I'd hope that it's racially inclusive, equitable, and democratic.
I agree with you wholeheartedly about the very real need for justice against the monsters prosecuting the genocide in Palestine so that the surviving victims may one day live freely. I hope that the international community comes around on this sooner than later.
Yeah. Canada also has the same level of warning for Italy and most of Western Europe. I’m in Italy and the warning level seems alarming compared to the reality. I find it interesting that Canada doesn’t have the same level for the USA frankly. It makes me wonder about the diplomacy of the warnings compared to the factual reality.
Yep. Which is why I did exactly that.
Agreed. I'm pretty sure that acknowledging that the country DOES have serious problems happened in/from the first or second sentence in my reply to you, so it's almost impressive that you seem to have missed it completely.
Again, we agree.
Same. Except I know what the start of the solution is: a worldwide diplomatic and economic boycott of Israel like we successfully did with Apartheid South Africa in the 90s.
The regime won't be able to continue their crimes against humanity with impunity once the economic and military support from Western allies dries up and when they are a pariah state that can't participate in any international events and can't sell any goods and services to the outside world either, the population WILL eventually revolt and overthrow it.
Look at the electricity network and availability in South Africa.
Not saying it can't happen, but you're gonna have to boycott the US, too, or they'll just keep getting propped up. It's a religious zeal for some, they won't be convinced of anything.
the US is boycotting itself at the moment
I'm doing my part!
Add it to the pile of reasons to boycott the US
At this point, if you aren't already boycotting the US, no matter where you live, I'd go so far to say that you're being an irresponsible adult.
Honestly, I don't see how either solution can work. In a two-state solution, Palestine doesn't look like it would be functional with those kinds of borders, and in a one-state solution, I don't see how there won't be extreme ethnic conflict after everything that's happened.
The majority of Palestinians don’t want one secular state with equal rights. This is a solution only peddled by clueless western activists.