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... so you're dismissing it. You don't think anything will change and this is the same struggle as the past century.
I think this technology enables stronger surveillance, to the point that I can't imagine how to beat it. This is a break from the past panopticon that relied on humans, it's new and much worse.
When you give up before there's a battle, you've already lost.
No, I think the technology and how we struggle will change, but what doesn't change is the fact that we're all still struggling and what doesn't change is that new technologies emerge that we will always struggle against as capitalists own the mode of production and how the innovation/implementation of those creations are done or distributed.
Upon further self-reflection, I suppose me saying that I don't think it will get to that point is dismissal. I'm listening to you and understanding what you're saying. I just think that the ghoulish technocrats aren't going to be able to hold onto/seize power for that long, genuinely. With climate change in the United States, the changes are going to be extremely drastic and the power grid in the United States is extremely fragile as it is. Some of the largest states struggle with that, Texas, Alaska, etc.
They are going to have to build entirely new infrastructure for this. While they are building that infrastructure, they have to build new prisons, maintain entire corporate/local governance and while they might have current sponsorship from this administration you have to really remember that they are also contending for control against the religious fundamentalists that make up literally the other half of the administration and most of the rural country. I don't think they will be able to do that against pressure and the slowly creeping control of the fundamentalists as you can only give so much to zealots before they want it all. This is what I meant by saying a "firing wall" will likely happen before full on digital individual panopticons controlled by LLMs.
I mean there's precedence for this too. Look at New Orleans, Florida, etc. Plenty of prisons just get abandoned as their power goes out, amenities shut down, etc. A multi-billion dollar prison you're discussing couldn't be abandoned like that. With climate change, they would have to considering how much of this country is going to be devastated. Continuing with historical examples, people will always resist no matter the depravity or barbarism of the conditions they exist in. I apologize again if it seems like I'm outright just dismissing what you're saying. I just don't think America is going to have enough time to build expansive mega-prison city-states when it collapses.
This small clip from Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri is relevant.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwqN3Ur-wP0&list=RDiwqN3Ur-wP0&start_radio=1
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: