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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

You’re dismissing the outside as I mentioned. This is a problem even for prisons now.

The exact opposite, I'm saying the outside is the only organizing that matters in these new conditions. Once you're in and they have you under 24/7 surveillance the only hope is in your comrades on the outside. This technology isn't impossible to beat, maybe someone could smuggle insider information to prisoners so they stand a chance, but it's so much worse than anything we have ever faced before and I don't know why you're dismissing it.

[–] 666@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

I don’t know why you’re dismissing it.

I'm not. People have had this same problem for close to a century now. You've heard of the panopticon, no? With every new invention, new generation of technology, etc people have always had the will and ability to overcome and surmount the challenges presented to them.

Once you’re in and they have you under 24/7 surveillance

Me saying and telling you that this already exists in federal prisons and that a LLM behind it makes no difference to me isn't dismissing it. It's me saying that this kind of technology and method of surveillance already exists, it just doesn't have GPT behind it and I don't really think putting GPT or a LLM behind it is going to make a difference. They are energy intensive and the scenario you're describing has millions of people under individual surveillance which is already power-intensive as it is. There is no reason to shove hundreds of thousands more into prisons to keep an eye on them when the United States already has a plethora of individual surveillance spread out across multiple agencies with differing levels of intensity. If anything, there are plenty of prisons where guards specifically don't do their jobs to control issues with overpopulation that is self-caused by cramming prisoners in as much as possible. They don't really care to "surveil" each prisoner. There's a reason the saying is "You can judge a nation by how it treats it's prisoners".

That's why I'm saying I genuinely think a firing wall would come before a LLM suite in each and every cell monitoring each and every single person 24/7. The current method works just fine and is cruel, dehumanizing, etc. If anything, a LLM might actually get a prisoner medical care on time in comparison. I might go as far to say a LLM like that might genuinely be better than human care as it exists now.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

and I don’t really think putting GPT or a LLM behind it is going to make a difference

... so you're dismissing it. You don't think anything will change and this is the same struggle as the past century.

I think this technology enables stronger surveillance, to the point that I can't imagine how to beat it. This is a break from the past panopticon that relied on humans, it's new and much worse.

[–] Maeve1@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

When you give up before there's a battle, you've already lost.

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