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Add this to the list of things I’m thinking now that, if you told me a year ago, I’d have assumed you were insane:
Literally already happening...
We activated a handful of NG, and one of them is already talking "I can't do this without getting paid".
Like, it's NG so he's dumb as fuck for thinking he even has a say in if he works or not. But he hasn't even missed a fucking paycheck yet and he's already just openly contemplating going AWOL...
There's a reason the military got paid during every other shutdown (sorry Coasties).
Nice to know that's where they draw the line. Not, "I can't do this because I don't want to attack my own countrymen". It's the possible late pay that's going too far
Washington had to put down a potential mutiny of Revolutionary troops due to pay. Washington was able to do that due to grativas and the troops respecting him.
Puts wooden teeth in.
Do you take IOUs?
I mean...
We ain't exactly the boots on the countries neck.
NG are getting activated for a lot of things these days. We grab them for random office drone bullshit constantly, but they do all types of stuff. Not sure how common it is these days, but back in the day they'd even get them for state construction projects.
The headlines recently are just the ones activated to "cities" which makes zero operational sense, but that's not the only way the NG is utilized.
I can understand, at least. Risking court marshal is still better than your family going homeless. Everyone values the lives of people they know more highly than numbers on a screen.
This happened during the Obama administration, I was active duty in those days. I think USAA and AER had some programs if you needed a check during the shutdown, not sure if that’s happening these days.
I didn't experience it so personally but I'm only seeing one shutdown during Obama's terms. That's not to say that certain media didn't screech about it endlessly, of course.
Yes I was active duty during Obama's administration and there was only one government shutdown that I can recall.
I think military missed 1 paycheck IIRC and my Navy Federal Credit Union fronted us the money until the back pay kicked in.
Ah, yeah you’re right. My bad. I believe there were threats of shutdowns but they never happened. Still got some emails from USAA about what to do in a potential shutdown AFAIK.
Also, a lot of Federal Credit unions front government paychecks...
They credit normal paychecks a couple days early as soon as they see the amount coming in. Traditional banks wait til it's actually in your account.
So in a shutdown those places keep fronting money, but that was because they had faith back pay was coming. With trump openly talking about not doing backpay, that may change.
Navy Federal Credit Union was a popular choice, but there's a couple that handle it like that.
Then there's programs ran by the bases to offer financial relief even in no shutdowns, not sure how'd they ration their funds during a shutdown.
I haven’t seen programs run by the base themselves, but AER is Army Emergency Relief. They have a lot of money and will either give you a no or very low interest loan or often just give you a grant that you don’t have to pay back.
They probably want this so they can remove anyone who protested and then give bonuses to the ones who were loyal/subservient, and fill in the empty spots with more people who will fall in line and follow orders no matter how illegal they may be.