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No mass movement will happen until these people take accountability for their actions and the actions of their nation their tax payers and money have helped fund genocides, massacres, wars and imperialism through out the globe, I don’t care how much indoctrination these low lives have gone through in their lives blood is on their hands as much as it’s on the hands of their government they need to pay
Your question was about the feisability of mass moments. Mass movements coalesce due to material interests, are made possible through class consciousness, and are fueled by the blood and sweat of the people willing to put in the work to fight for unity.
I don't know if "these people" you speak of are the reactionaries or absolutely everyone in the Imperial Core, but idealist notions of "paying for your sins" aren't what make these movements happen.
Everyone in the imperial core,
call it idealist notion I call it equal distribution of justice
Okay, so do we start with the Blacks and browns like usual when we seek retribution or we going for something more modern with the gays?
I still don’t understand how that revenge is supposed to be executed? Like waiting for china to invade and occupy all of the global north and kill/imprison everyone?
Because otherwise these bombastic notions of revenge seem more like passive acts of feeling you accomplished something as a revolutionary when a middle manager father of three has to sell his family’s second car because he got fired.
You ain't ever hear of Original Sin theology?
Why are you so adamant on defending the reactionary whites of the imperial core?
Damn, didn't realize I was white. I'll go apologize for the blackface.
Need to find who keeps perming my hair in my sleep though, shits weird and I want my luscious 2C white blonde Aryan hair back since we're all white!
Well I guess this a new level of "I don't see color" wholly denying the fact that non white people live in the imperial core. Or a new level of illiteracy reading "Black or brown" as white.
Are you physically white, or just spiritually?
Im not talking about the non whites theyre just as oppressed as the rest of the colonizer world im asking why you are defending reactionary whites
Quote it then. Where did I say anything on them?
Why did you bring up minorities when I was talking about accountability of the whites, minorities don’t benefit from the exploitation of the global south that to me is tacit defence of reactionary whites who have for years profited and continue to profit from the exploitation and colonisation of the global south
Hi again! This is you! Now maybe I'm just an illiterate black too eager to defend Massa but from what my small mind understands, "Everyone," isn't "white."
So when my small stupid black boy brain reads that and is concerned about how this rhetoric is used for self-flaggation by white cowards that want it as an justification as to why their inaction isn't just an excuse to abandon us and other oppressed people and sit on their lazy asses, I guess I just misunderstood and forgot that WE AREN'T PEOPLE and thus aren't considered, "Everyone." I'll make sure to remember that and know it next time a white person wants to engage in their stupid fucking white guilt.
Also, we do enjoy the benefits of the exploitation of the third world, but at lesser degrees, not to correct you with my small Black ideas.
Im gonna stop engaging
Yeah, cuz you're a cracker engaging in white chauvinism with a red coat to justify letting oppressed people die while not acting
You're reason POC don't trust white people, not the reactionaries that are willing to say to our face they'll just let us all die.
Do you live in the Imperial Core? I know you have "commie" in your username - do you consider yourself a Marxist?
Yes
I don't mean "idealist" as an arbitrary pejorative. I'm talking about idealism vs materialism as a way of understanding and changing the world. I'm not sure how far along you are in your journey as a Marxist - are you familiar with historical and dialectical materialism?
Yeah I know what they are