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Can we count 1 billion deaths from capitalism? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 6 days ago by Comrade1917@lemmygrad.ml to c/thedeprogram@lemmygrad.ml

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The black book of communism inaccurately counts 100 million deaths and is widely cited by every anti communist even though it is blatantly false. Could we make a version that cites 10 times the amount of deaths to use as a reply whenever someone cites it. Preferably without using logic as bad as they use. Just think it would be useful to use in arguments.

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[–] haui@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Honestly, every non natural death (and a lot that are natural but years of life lost through poverty, sanctions, etc). I think its closer to 10 billion, easily.

Currently, the annual death count worldwide by diseases seems to be some 60 million. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_causes_of_death_by_rate

Capitalism is around for some 175 years if you start by 1850. There are no definitive numbers i could find that marked the start of capitalism.

Now the western way would be to just multiply 175 by 60 which is 10.5 billion exactly. :)

Of course thats bogus but its a nice number to look at. Someone more knowledgeable will easily come up with a more accurate calculation.

[–] FishLake@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Uh but actually you have to divide that 10 billion by the total number of people who have been born under capitalism since 1850 plus the number of potential offspring those 10 billion non-natural deaths would have had which is uhhh like 80 billion. So 10 billion divided by 80 billion is .125 for the true death rate. And if you divide the true death rate by the total amount of people who have ever lived, 117 billion, then you get the total number of deaths under capitalism. ~~So that .125~~Actually you round down to 0, divided by 117 billion.

Amazingly only 0 people have ever died under capitalism. Even if you multiply that result by 60, you still get 0. Truly capitalism is the most perfect, logical economic system ever created. Go ahead, check my math, tankies.

[–] haui@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wow. Some people are so good at impersonating capitalists, it gives me goosebumps. Have you studied capitalist cultism (economics) or something?

[–] FishLake@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 5 days ago

Nah that’s just the product of the good ‘ol American educational system

[–] pyromaiden@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Capitalism existed long before 1850.

[–] haui@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I had to pick a date to do a lazy western style calculation. Feel free to elaborate when you're thinking capitalism "started" and factor in the amount of influence it had on the death and life of people. Its been an attempt at funni.

[–] Stizzah@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 6 days ago

Capitalism is way older than Marx. Prof Wolff usually says it's more or less 400 years old.