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As Ireland's $1,500-a-month basic income pilot program for creatives nears its end in February, officials have to answer a simple question: Is it worth it?

With four months to go, they say the answer is yes.

Earlier this month, Ireland's government announced its 2026 budget, which includes "a successor to the pilot Basic Income Scheme for the Arts to begin next year" among its expenditures.

Ireland is just one of many places experimenting with guaranteed basic income programs, which provide recurring, unrestricted payments to people in a certain demographic. These programs differ from a universal basic income, which would provide payments for an entire population.

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[–] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 59 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

as long as influencers dont count as artists, does this sound great

edit: i still want everyone to get UBI and like rather have artists + influencers than none

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That attitude is why the wealthy will always insist on means testing to oppose progress...

The attitude we need is:

I hope as many people as possible get it now, and we'll keep working on the rest.

Influencers suck, pretty much as a rule.

But everyone deserves to live. And them being UBI proponents and constantly talking about it because they're genuinely happy they got it is a hell of a lot better than them taking cash from a billionaire to pit us against each other.

[–] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

i mean i get what you mean, and i ofc also want UBI for everyone

But i still think giving it to influencers specifically at this point is just further encouraging shitty behaviour, i think this will just make even more people try that, and to get any relevancy they would have to be even worse as a person to get any attention.. And i doubt that they would not be greedy enough to not take not any extra money from whoever is offereing it.

I think it should be considere that they would litteraly influence others and i doubt it would be in a better way then it is currently.

i think i would be fine with litteraly any other group of people instead, and also influencers are probably not included anyway tho

(ofc there are probably some good influencers, but they are drowned out by all the others)

edit: but like i think i still would rather have artists + influencers ubi then none

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

but like i think i still would rather have artists + influencers ubi then none

Right...

But first you posted a comment about how pissed you were that another group were getting it and they shouldn't.

Even if you know you meant "everyone should get it"...

You didn't type that, you were manipulated instead into only saying a group you don't like shouldn't get it.

No one reading your initial comment was/is capable of reading your mind. You did what the wealthy wanted, and may have influenced those who just read your first comment.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

You’re giving the right fucks. UBI for all.

[–] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

i edited my comment tbh for me it was kind of obviouse that i am not against UBI but fine, i guess it was not

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

wtf even is an “influencer?” i am an online comedian posting my own material to an audience of 90,000-100,000 followers. i am not trying to be an influencer. i don’t want to be seen as even a micro-influencer. it seems that word is given to anyone who is trying to be an entertainer online.

is that how you’re using it too? how would we legally separate between artists like me and whatever an influencer is?

[–] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In the current context i mean any of these "lifestyle" people, i mean these that basically create nothing, whose content is either just about themself, like a vlog or them live streaming how they play a game while they add nothing of value to it, or these whose content is them beeing a menace on socitiy, or pointless drama or ragebait stuff.

I dont think any of this is art.

But i dont mean anyone that actually does create something, so i dont mean online comedians like you, that is an artist for me in this context.

I actually think it is kind of hard to define, influencer is probably not even the right word for what i mean, but i have heard people use it for what i ment.. But yeah i am probably using the word wrong

[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 1 points 2 days ago

nah i get ya. i use the word the way you describe it as well. but i have seen commentary channels referred to as influencers which i didn’t think was right.

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Thankfully the article lists everyone that's eligible and not eligible.

[–] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

it was only a question of when i get called out on this lol

[–] TachyonTele@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago

Low hanging fruit, and everything

[–] RedditRefugee69@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 2 days ago

The price of not only forming a conclusion, but expressing it before collecting information.

Not true! I'm definitely not eligible, and I'm not listed anywhere in the article.