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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (14 children)

Hamas doesn't accept the two state solution. They are open to maybe discussing potentially reaching a consensus about the 1967 borders.

If you want to underscore Israeli unreasonableness, you've got to point to the PA/Fatah. The PA/Fatah has accepted the two state solution and has stopped violent resistance against Israel. They are in every way an interlocutor for peace. And in return they are being constantly undermined and ratfucked by Israel. Their territory is being annexed, its authority ridiculed, ita legitimacy destroyed.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (12 children)

So PA has respected the term of the Oslo accords and Israel didn't and start building more settlements, arming and protecting the settlers yet PA still accept to work for Israel security while west banker get terrorized and attacked by them . Thank you for proving my point that PA are collaborators and Israel do not want peace regardless if Hamas is destroyed or not

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 month ago (11 children)

Israel actually dismantled settlements after Oslo. Hamas opposed the Accords and carried out several deadly bomb attacks against Israeli civilians in the runup to the next election. This put Netanyahu in power who ran on an agenda of opposing Oslo as well. Their refusal to a two state solution, and futile hope to defeat Israel through violence and terrorism, squandered every chance for a peaceful solution.

[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Israel under Rabin seemed intent to stick to the accords, but a far-right ultrazionist terror attack in Hebron and the subsequent assassination of Rabin by a right-wing Israeli extremist undermined it significantly as well.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago

Of course the mosque attack had the same aim, and needs to be condemned just the same. But despite them, Arafat and the PA decided to continue the path towards peace. Hamas saw them even more as traitors and collaborators because of it (and, I'd like to point out, several posters in this thread still seem to believe this).

Despite it being a shocking event, the assassination of Rabin did not make Israel leave the path. His successor vowed to continue and even had a 30-point lead in the polls at one point.

Without the Hamas' bombing campaign Netanyahu would have been left shouting from a corner instead of being handed the power to reverse Oslo.

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