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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

But can we maybe just stop taking a side? This conflict is not about Israel or Palestine having to be deradicalized, OP, it's about the all the warmongers and religious fundamentalists and radicals on both sides who need to be deradicalized.

Partially incorrect, since the vast majority of Israelis clearly support the actions of their current government and army. Now, this could be due to mass propaganda inside Israel. Quite possible, but the numbers are still way too high. The level of support is higher than it was in Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, where as we now know, propaganda was constant and ubiquitous.

Moreover, it's one of very few countries on the planet that have never had a significant peaceful period in their history. Pretty much since its establishment in 1948, Israel has been slaughtering people. Admittedly, not all of it is their fault. I don't blame them for getting invaded literal hours after declaring independence. However, Europe has experienced this in the past as well, and yet, it managed to forge peace lasting longer than its conflicts.

This, and more, points me to a suggestion that Israel does in fact need to be deradicalized. How we'd go about it, if confirmed to be the case, is an entirely different matter.

[–] couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago

You might be surprised that back until around the end of the 80's, a Palestinian from Gaza could just drive to Tel Aviv to have a coffee with his jewish Israeli friends.

[–] glorkon@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago

Partially incorrect, since the vast majority of Israelis clearly support the actions of their current government and army.

I actually agree with this and nothing I said is in contradiction with this fact. There are still some Israelis, albeit far too few, who want peace.