The main “issue” with Hasan is that his goal isn’t to be principled and correct, it’s to push liberals towards more principled and correct politics. This means he will always find himself in scenarios like his support for that politician, who is basically a socdem with a very iffy past. In the context of American politics, however, that particular politician is actually pretty radical.

[–] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

In the context of American politics, however, that particular politician is actually pretty radical.

My entire extended family where killed by people with that tattoo assigned to them, are you for real?

If this is the best American politics has to offer. we're essentially arguing which nazi would be best at running the concentration camps, we've already lost.

[–] Magicicad@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The policy he campaigns on is basic social democracy, which is radical in the US. I’m not sure how what I said can be misinterpreted like that, genuinely.

[–] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

you should learn more about soc-dems sellout of communists during nazi germany - the fact that Hasan has no issue glazing a neo-nazi should tell you where the lines of him actually are, they are more than happy to work with PMC's like Platner because they both support a form of capitalism that retains white supremancy in some way.

[–] Magicicad@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I’m pretty familiar with how shitty socdems are. I gues my areas of confusion are a) how Platner is a neo-nazi and not just a shitty blackwater guy and b) why Hasan should be dismissed because he’s more effective than any principled ML I’ve seen at converting liberals, because he concedes to them. I will never use him as a basis for my worldview, but I still respect him.

[–] ghost_of_faso3@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 3 months ago

) how Platner is a neo-nazi and not just a shitty blackwater guy

America is a fascist country, Platner bragged about killing 100's of Muslim civilians on reddit and did 4 tours in the middle east, one for Blackwater which obviously as we both know killed millions of people defending there own countries in the two attempted genocides in both gulf wars as well as oversaw the concentration and torture black-sites used in both wars as well - imagine knowing that there where active concentration camps in your own military and then with glee singing up for that same military 4 times.

Platner had a literal totenkompf tattoo on his chest, are we really going to pretend someone like that is reformable?

I would trust an average school janitor to run a country more than this guy, why are we defending him because our favorite pet streamer platformed him?

You should read 'Ideology and State Apparatus' and understand that twitch/streamers/online is just another extension of the upper classes ideological hegemony and is an arm of the state, which is why it permits social democracy within its own spheres as the upper class have an indepth understanding of politcal theory and how to effectively utilize it to lead the masses down false paths. The only reason why you care about social democracy, Hasan and are spending time arguing for them is because they allow them to be rich and influential on the platforms that they own - its why they say the revolution wont be televised, who do you think decides who is allowed on the television?