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“At present, the lede and the overall presentation state, in Wikipedia’s voice, that Israel is committing genocide, although that claim is highly contested,” Wales said. He added that a “neutral approach would begin with a formulation such as: ‘Multiple governments, NGOs, and legal bodies have described or rejected the characterization of Israel’s actions in Gaza as genocide.’” Currently, the article bases its position that a genocide exists on conclusions from United Nations investigations, the International Association of Genocide Scholars, and “multiple human rights groups,” among others.

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[–] 9bananas@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Public opinion in Israel also does not appear to be influenced by the British.

let's start with the easy one: this is completely irrelevant. public opinion is largely worthless and means nothing.

The active current genocide started in 23.

it started in the 1940s, arguably earlier.

the very first thing that happened in the region was Palestinians being expelled from their own land in order to make way for the zionist regime.

that's how Palestinian oppression started, and it's the reason the situation got so bad in the first place.

it got much, much worse in '23, but that's not the start at all.

It was triggered by a terror attack.

no, it was the other way around; ongoing genocide triggered the terrorist attack.

and more importantly:

is this supposed to mean that genocide can be justified? is that what you're saying?

Some have considered the attack inevitable due to continued oppression and border fences.

gee, i wonder how that oppression started in the first place... certainly couldn't have been the british! they'd never meddle in the middle east for colonialist reasons!

well...except in afghanistan....and iraq...and syria...and egypt...wait, how long is this list anyway?

could the british empire be responsible for most of the clusterfuck that is the current middle east, by having drawn completely arbitrary lines on maps more than a century ago, which were deliberately designed to fence in diverse ethnic communities, with the explicit goal of suppressing the local populations by putting them in a constant state of unresolvable armed conflict in order to ensure instability in the region and as a result keeping education and living standards low, thus guaranteeing cheap oil for the foreseeable future by making it trivial to install dictatorships across the region?

...are you for fucking real?

(hawara, du saufst den lack aber auch im liter pack...)

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The British empire would not have existed if the Romans had not colonised England, so technically this is all Italy's fault.

[–] 9bananas@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago

that fucking fish should have stayed in the ocean, where it belongs!!

or, alternatively:

In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made many people very mad and been widely regarded as a bad move.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Placing blame on entities that don't exist anymore is silly. Italy didn't even exist back then, so this makes your statement even more convoluted.