Pauline Hanson is a racist bigot we shouldn’t be giving the time of day to; but as a tolerant society, we should also not tolerate or allow burka and niqab in a similar fashion to how we don’t allow motorcycle helmets and other headgear which fully obscures one’s face?

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

in a similar fashion to how we don’t allow motorcycle helmets and other headgear which fully obscures one’s face?

...these are allowed. In fact, it's illegal to ride a motorcycle without a motorcycle helmet.

I'm guessing you're talking about special or private places like banks, but that's not what Pauline Hanson was proposing, at all.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, to clarify, I did mean wearing a motorcycle helmet while walking into a public or commercial space like a bank, supermarket, shopping centre etc.

I have no problems with hijab, shayla and other open/face head coverings as a self-expression of religious modesty - but at a point that ‘modesty’ is either no longer a personal choice (ie. imposed by pressure from family, friends, spiritual leaders), or begins to negatively impact public safety.

Such garments are no longer fit-for-purpose in an a progressive society such as ours.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

supermarket, shopping centre etc

Why? Delivery drivers across Asia do it.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

While I’ve only visited a few cities in mainland China, the food delivery drivers that I have see have all worn open-faced helmets like this:

As to why, apart from it being generally anti-social - it’s mainly because it’s a massive security issue, as the individual in question cannot be identified in the event of assault, theft or order crimes.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Did you come over in winter? I am in Urumqi and its quite common to see open-faced helmet with a scarf/necktube/jacket pulled over the mouth/nose, I also saw it in Korea and Vietnam.

You have cameras which presumably can see their bike liscense.

Then again, masking in public due to illness/air pollution is common over here, it would be weird to ban just delivery drivers from covering their faces.

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