No, not in the slightest. She appropriated someone else's culture with the specific intent of demeaning them. The only point she was making was that she herself is exceptionally racist.

[+] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Islam is not a race

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Correct in a vacuum, but in context we must acknowledge that people like Pauline Hanson use anti-Islamic arguments as a proxy for racism against Middle Easterners. It's distinct from mere opposition to the religion itself.

We see the same thing with critique of Judaism being used as a pretext by antisemites to launder their racism against people with Jewish ethnicity. Bigots know that the majority of society object to overt racism, so the more tactful ones use proxies like cultures and religions to attack race.

[–] ada@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 weeks ago

Inaction on racism and islamophobia isn't a senate stance I want to see...

[–] CTDummy@aussie.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

On one hand I don't agree with the burqa and don't really think it’s based in Islam and there are plenty of Muslim communities don't that wear it. This however is not an acceptable approach. It’d be like appropriating a head wrap to protest Sikhs. You’re clearly not part of the religion/culture so it isn’t an appropriate method of protest. Also she’s not wearing it right? Like you can still see her legs?

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Can we all agree that both sides of this debate suck?

Pauline Hanson is a racist bigot we shouldn’t be giving the time of day to; but as a tolerant society, we should also not tolerate or allow burka and niqab in a similar fashion to how we don’t allow motorcycle helmets and other headgear which fully obscures one’s face?

[–] eureka@aussie.zone 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

in a similar fashion to how we don’t allow motorcycle helmets and other headgear which fully obscures one’s face?

...these are allowed. In fact, it's illegal to ride a motorcycle without a motorcycle helmet.

I'm guessing you're talking about special or private places like banks, but that's not what Pauline Hanson was proposing, at all.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, to clarify, I did mean wearing a motorcycle helmet while walking into a public or commercial space like a bank, supermarket, shopping centre etc.

I have no problems with hijab, shayla and other open/face head coverings as a self-expression of religious modesty - but at a point that ‘modesty’ is either no longer a personal choice (ie. imposed by pressure from family, friends, spiritual leaders), or begins to negatively impact public safety.

Such garments are no longer fit-for-purpose in an a progressive society such as ours.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

supermarket, shopping centre etc

Why? Delivery drivers across Asia do it.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

While I’ve only visited a few cities in mainland China, the food delivery drivers that I have see have all worn open-faced helmets like this:

As to why, apart from it being generally anti-social - it’s mainly because it’s a massive security issue, as the individual in question cannot be identified in the event of assault, theft or order crimes.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Did you come over in winter? I am in Urumqi and its quite common to see open-faced helmet with a scarf/necktube/jacket pulled over the mouth/nose, I also saw it in Korea and Vietnam.

You have cameras which presumably can see their bike liscense.

Then again, masking in public due to illness/air pollution is common over here, it would be weird to ban just delivery drivers from covering their faces.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4oe1EXro6s

In this case no, I skimmed the video but in this case I don't see her doing anything wrong

It's a bit ironic that the greens lady in the video is so loud and outraged about someone wearing a burqa, maybe because most people feel this way, just not about one particular person but all who wear it.

Unfortunately Nu Greens members have tied the party into a very odd spot, progressive and regressive simultaneously which is leading people to leave to labor, resulting in one of the saddest poll results ever:

The latest Guardian Essential poll also found One Nation’s primary vote has doubled to 13% since the May federal election, putting support for the hard-right party above the Greens.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/oct/01/australians-back-labor-albanese-emissions-target-while-one-nation-support-doubles-guardian-essential-poll

Congrats to the greens, you played yourself